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bfmorse
Senior Cruncher US Joined: Jul 26, 2009 Post Count: 442 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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On my farm of a couple dozen systems, I have:
18 ARP1 resends over 10 computers 3 MCM1 resends over 3 computers ZERO _0 or _1 WU's of either variety |
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Grumpy Swede
Master Cruncher Svíþjóð Joined: Apr 10, 2020 Post Count: 2498 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Still nothing to be had. Shutting down, until I can read on the forum, that the flow of new tasks is back. I think the entire WCG team went on a summer vacation.
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hchc
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Aug 15, 2006 Post Count: 865 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I asked Jurisica a question in March, and 4 months later zero response from him or anyone on the team. I don't think they give a darn about us, based on actions. They're not active on the forums or e-mail.
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hchc
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Aug 15, 2006 Post Count: 865 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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hchc Why do you think that? It does sometimes get forgotten or issued late. Also bear in mind that it is at midday GMT (UTC). However my Sunday Report is about progress and is just as valid if it is consistently late or fluctuates because of 5 week averaging for the forecast. Incidentally you posted an ARP specific item on a general forum. It should have been on the ARP forum. Mike Because it'll refresh and say e.g. that Generation 149 completed x last day, where x is something small like 7 or 10, and I completed quite a few from that generation the past day. So that makes me think there is a possible 24 or 48 hour lag in generations.txt data from reality.
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alanb1951
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Jan 20, 2006 Post Count: 1317 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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A cell won't shift in generations.txt until some proof of validation -- it might simply detect that a canonical result has been selected (basic validation), it might have to wait until some post-validation activity has happened on the canonical result, or it might wait until the WU is ready to be assimilated and BOINC database records purged.
I don't think we know which of those cases applies -- perhaps someone else can set me straight on that... The simplest one is the "just validated" case, in which case the "lag" after you see the result validate should be at most 24 hours. Cheers - Al. P.S. I'd love to see the queries that generate those three files, and see the mechanisms used to manage generation transition. Knowing is better than guessing, but it isn't going to happen :-) |
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Unixchick
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Apr 16, 2020 Post Count: 1295 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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shutdown?? I keep checking for official info, and I haven't seen any yet.
I'm still getting a random resend, but not many. My own results list shows WUs with 2 replies, but not validated, just stuck in pending. I'm hoping we restart the project soon on new equipment, but who knows. |
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Unixchick
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Apr 16, 2020 Post Count: 1295 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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YES ! I'm getting fresh MCM WUs now.
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hchc
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Aug 15, 2006 Post Count: 865 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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A cell won't shift in generations.txt until some proof of validation -- it might simply detect that a canonical result has been selected (basic validation), it might have to wait until some post-validation activity has happened on the canonical result, or it might wait until the WU is ready to be assimilated and BOINC database records purged. I don't think we know which of those cases applies -- perhaps someone else can set me straight on that... The simplest one is the "just validated" case, in which case the "lag" after you see the result validate should be at most 24 hours. Cheers - Al. Yeah, that seems to make sense. Validation first before updating that stats page. P.S. I'd love to see the queries that generate those three files, and see the mechanisms used to manage generation transition. Knowing is better than guessing, but it isn't going to happen :-) +1! I have the same technical curiosity for as much detail as possible just for funsies.
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Unixchick
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MCM is flowing well, but I haven't gotten a fresh ARP in a while... only resends
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Grumpy Swede
Master Cruncher Svíþjóð Joined: Apr 10, 2020 Post Count: 2498 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I'm taking a longer break from all WCG now, until some new and more interesting project is introduced here. It would also help if the WCG team would be more present here, and inform us volunteers about what is going on. As it is now, it's totally silent from the team, no matter what happens.
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