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El_Pinguino
Cruncher Joined: May 15, 2020 Post Count: 8 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Thanks for the update. However, I have moved on to greener pastures.
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PowerFactor
Ace Cruncher Joined: Dec 9, 2016 Post Count: 4015 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
With this issue on a path to resolution, we should now be able to address some of the concerns over statistics, credit, streaks, and database dumps which we have already begun to investigate. Cyclops, if you guys can fix this stuff, alot of people will be happy around here. . I would love to see the "My Contribution" tab back in working order. [Edit 1 times, last edit by PowerFactor at Aug 20, 2022 2:53:57 AM] |
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Sandman192
Cruncher United States Joined: Apr 26, 2007 Post Count: 20 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
The strange thing is that WCG downloaded 100 WUs in bits a pieces.
A little here, a little there on every WU. Like it failed on each WU just to get a little amount of each file and tried on another over and over. What you should see is at least 4 WU half downloaded and pending (because it downloads 4 WUs at a time) and the rest should be at 0% downloaded and pending when the network went down. |
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Bryn Mawr
Senior Cruncher Joined: Dec 26, 2018 Post Count: 336 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Yes, they’re struggling - we know they’re struggling and have been since IBM walked away and left them to it but to call the biggest step forward they’ve made a “slap in the face” is, IMHO, out of order.
We are getting work which is what people have been calling for, niceties like statistics come way down the list. It is self evident that this was not a transfer of software and operating environment, it is also impossible to plan bug fixes before the bugs have been found. We could have wished that things were otherwise, that IBM had handed over hardware and software as a working system maybe or that all of the IBM employees involved had transferred en-mass so that the knowledge was retained but this was not to be so please, do not bemoan what should have been but accept what is - I for one am thankful that we have a system and it is getting to the point where it’s usable. Can we start from there and move forwards? |
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adriverhoef
Master Cruncher The Netherlands Joined: Apr 3, 2009 Post Count: 2084 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Yes, they’re struggling - we know they’re struggling and have been since IBM walked away and left them to it but to call the biggest step forward they’ve made a “slap in the face” is, IMHO, out of order. We are getting work which is what people have been calling for, niceties like statistics come way down the list. It is self evident that this was not a transfer of software and operating environment, it is also impossible to plan bug fixes before the bugs have been found. We could have wished that things were otherwise, that IBM had handed over hardware and software as a working system maybe or that all of the IBM employees involved had transferred en-mass so that the knowledge was retained but this was not to be so please, do not bemoan what should have been but accept what is - I for one am thankful that we have a system and it is getting to the point where it’s usable. Can we start from there and move forwards? Totally agree. Thank you very much, Bryn! |
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mdparkhill
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I guess it must be because it's Saturday morning in the states but for the first time since the move I have my hreadripper running nearly flat out and i keep more downloads for open(no gpu) that are in ready status. If y'all can ever get your choke point in the network fixed we'll be good. I know some folks are worried about their stats. I'm more worried about the results will they be valid that the researchers can use them?
----------------------------------------Keep up the work. |
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jelv62
Cruncher UK Joined: Jan 22, 2016 Post Count: 8 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
I'm going to go out on a limb and speculate that the 'data center' is not a part of Krembil and because of that there is no urgency at the 'data center'. Apparently IBM did not give them specs on the kind of network traffic that would be generated, or nobody at Krembil read them or supplied them to the 'data center'. I think you are very likely to be close to the truth. If you tracrt to www.worldcommunitygrid.org it goes to SHARCNET. https://www.sharcnet.ca/my/news/referencing says what that is. |
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TPCBF
Master Cruncher USA Joined: Jan 2, 2011 Post Count: 1931 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
I'm going to go out on a limb and speculate that the 'data center' is not a part of Krembil and because of that there is no urgency at the 'data center'. Apparently IBM did not give them specs on the kind of network traffic that would be generated, or nobody at Krembil read them or supplied them to the 'data center'. I think you are very likely to be close to the truth. If you tracrt to www.worldcommunitygrid.org it goes to SHARCNET. https://www.sharcnet.ca/my/news/referencing says what that is. You do know that Krembil is part of the group that SHARCNET is working for? The Krembil Research Institute, formerly known as the Toronto Western Research Institute, is an academic medical research institute in Toronto. It is one of the largest research institutes in Canada focusing on human neurological disease. Krembil is one of the principal research institutes of the University Health Network and is the research institute of the Toronto Western Hospital. |
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Former Member
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I downloaded a bunch of work units om 3 of my computers and had like almost no problem as it seems to be running much smoother now,If they could create new work unit at a faster rate then they are doing now that would be a further it inprovement but things are getting better now
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jelv62
Cruncher UK Joined: Jan 22, 2016 Post Count: 8 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
I'm going to go out on a limb and speculate that the 'data center' is not a part of Krembil and because of that there is no urgency at the 'data center'. Apparently IBM did not give them specs on the kind of network traffic that would be generated, or nobody at Krembil read them or supplied them to the 'data center'. I think you are very likely to be close to the truth. If you tracrt to www.worldcommunitygrid.org it goes to SHARCNET. https://www.sharcnet.ca/my/news/referencing says what that is. You do know that Krembil is part of the group that SHARCNET is working for? The Krembil Research Institute, formerly known as the Toronto Western Research Institute, is an academic medical research institute in Toronto. It is one of the largest research institutes in Canada focusing on human neurological disease. Krembil is one of the principal research institutes of the University Health Network and is the research institute of the Toronto Western Hospital. I'm agreeing with Jake1402 that the team running WCG at Krembil is totally separate from the SHARCNET team that run the data centre. Whether SHARCNET is an independent commercial organisation or (as is the case) part of the same group will make very little difference to the working relationship between the teams. All they can do is hand over details of what they want, flag up issues but then they have to wait for the team responsible for the data centre to do what is needed - and the SHARCNET team will be looking after services for many other teams/projects some of which will be higher priority than WCG. It's possible that the WCG system and network demands have impacted on other systems that were working perfectly fine before WCG came on the scene, in which case SHARCNET's first priority will be to get them working properly which would have a detrimental impact on WCG. |
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