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Re: 7 Day Deadlines for Test

won't the new tasks jump in front of the older tasks due to the shorter deadline?
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Re: 7 Day Deadlines for Test

On the individual machine, if you have a 7 day deadline workunit and a 1 day deadline workunit, then yes, it would probably get processed before the 7 day deadline. However, on the server side, the scheduler (feeder) is not full, so we don't have 7 day deadlines being sent out anymore.

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Re: 7 Day Deadlines for Test


if you have a 7 day deadline workunit and a 1 day deadline workunit, then yes, it would probably get processed before the 7 day deadline

Exactly that - just happened on one of my systems. Was lucky to get 6 of the 1-day WUs all at the same time just now - 6 WUs in progress, of which 2 were FAH2, suspended for now... (8 CPU i7)
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Re: 7 Day Deadlines for Test

BOINC is hardcoded to process anything immediately when in 24 hour deadline. Of course if there are more than there are resources, they'll be queued. In my case, allow 6, but only permit 2 to process concurrent. All still get delivered in time.

Edit: Btw, you may notice that if you have more in buffer than allowed to process, other threads also start processing in high priority to the tune of equal to the number of FAHB you have up to all threads. In the above example. with 2 processing and 4 forced to wait, a total of 6 thread will switch to HP (7.14.2)

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Re: 7 Day Deadlines for Test

Right now I'm running a generation 25 work unit but just yesterday I ran one that was generation 11. It seems to me that the lagging threads could be caught up better by directing these to reliable hosts.

It seems to me that this is the essential problem that a short deadline was intended to address but it doesn't seem very successful to me.
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Re: 7 Day Deadlines for Test

Basically. shorter deadline projects jump the queue ahead of longer deadline projects unless you have virtually no queue.

There are many of us keeping the queue to a minimum in order to try to get arp units.

Another variable is the crunching time of the units, arp being much longer than the others.

Then there is the supply availability and finally the ability of the scientists to process the results.

All these factors should be taken into account to optimise the speed of the projects.

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Re: 7 Day Deadlines for Test

Collected the first bits of information. I'm turning the project back to 1 day deadlines.

Note: It will take the project about a week to get back to processing speed as before.

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It looks to be running at pre-test levels, at least for yesterday:

Statistics Date Total Run Time
(y:d:h:m:s) Points Generated Results Returned
01/19/2020 0:007:14:28:07 41,513 36
01/18/2020 5:315:19:43:31 11,358,950 9,755
01/17/2020 4:222:02:47:15 8,883,680 7,573
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Re: 7 Day Deadlines for Test

Right now I'm running a generation 25 work unit but just yesterday I ran one that was generation 11. It seems to me that the lagging threads could be caught up better by directing these to reliable hosts.

It seems to me that this is the essential problem that a short deadline was intended to address but it doesn't seem very successful to me.
I am limiting the amount so these don't chew up all of the threads. I can get everything else done in this short queue by giving FA@H2 half of the threads. I don't have any problem getting a set done in a day, and sometimes get a second set or a third set with a new deadline for each group. I have seen generations as high as 28, but they seem to be kind of random, not progressing through the day. I am sure I pick up a mixture of some that finished quickly and some a little slower.
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Re: 7 Day Deadlines for Test

Right now I'm running a generation 25 work unit but just yesterday I ran one that was generation 11. It seems to me that the lagging threads could be caught up better by directing these to reliable hosts.

It seems to me that this is the essential problem that a short deadline was intended to address but it doesn't seem very successful to me.
I am limiting the amount so these don't chew up all of the threads. I can get everything else done in this short queue by giving FA@H2 half of the threads. I don't have any problem getting a set done in a day, and sometimes get a second set or a third set with a new deadline for each group. I have seen generations as high as 28, but they seem to be kind of random, not progressing through the day. I am sure I pick up a mixture of some that finished quickly and some a little slower.

1/25 ... generations are slowly getting higher. I am working on a couple #33 and a #34. When they get as high as they are supposed to and run of work, I guess they give us another 5000 to start on.
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Ryzen 7 3800X 16 threads
Ryzen 9 3900X 24threads
Home i7 3540M 4threads50%
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Re: 7 Day Deadlines for Test

I'm hardly getting any work units at all. It's been extremely sporadic.
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