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Re: 7 Day Deadlines for Test

Only Bullcarp is your language here! Maybe u should go on some redneck forum and talk to people like that! Can u explain what is actually bullcarp here? Am I wrong or u have find yourself called? I am not only one who said that majority of crunchers dedicated to FAH2 project should wait for work because someone is downloaded work and can't even finish it in 24h deadline! Everyone is welcome of course, as I said before and what is your problem man?
It's your high-nosed language in your initial reply that is bullcarp. Ignorant and arrogant.. Again, simple as that. But people like you don't understand that there are a lot of folks running WCG for the underlying purposes of aiding science, not for some computer geeks boasting about the performance of their high performance crunching rigs...
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Oh, look who's talking! It's sad to see toxic people like you on forum related to humanity research! It wasn't me who talked arrogant to anyone, especially not yourself, and u don't have any right to write or talk to me in that bullcarp manner of your's! I would repat it gladly: no one has right to impose something to majority of crunchers just to prove something that actually isn't right or justified! If u think that u are some kind of saint here or policeman, go to your own home and talk to someone there if u have to! Hahah, read again my post and then go back and write something smart, if u can anyway! My post was about people who has dedicated they rigs more to FAH2 and they don't have problems with 24h deadline! It has nothing to do with actually performance of their rigs! I was here donating my time before u and with far less computing power than today! If u are smart enough, and here for actually benefit to science, go and look project output now and period before 7d deadline introduced and explain to us how less work done in one day will actually benefit science? Maybe in your's parallel world or something! First, u are some very frustrated and unhappy person who has bad habit of sticking it's nose where doesn't belong! Go learn some culture of dialog! Second, I wasn't ignorant to anyone! If someone wish to contribute to FAH2, what is the problem to download and crunch it in couple of hours and return results back in 24h? Majority of crunchers must wait for new generations of work just because someone likes to save plenty of work on computer that is turned off? Who is actually ignorant in that case? At the end, I am not only one who thinks that 7d deadline is not good idea for this type of project and, of course, everyone is welcome to crunch it, regardless of rigs they have! It's seems to me that you are here for reasons that u talked to me, bragging with badges on forums, etc. Take some pill against that toxicity of yours! Hope one day we find cure for that kind of people too!
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Re: 7 Day Deadlines for Test

My computer that has gotten all of the 7-day units is a 4-core that I have asking for 6 units for the duration of the 7 day test. Normally I limit it to ask for only 2 FAHB. Each time I have connected with available units I got the full 6.

My runtime on all of these units has been less than 4 hours and turnaround time has ranged from 6-12 hours.

I also have two slower computers requesting work but they have not gotten any FAHB during the 7-day test.
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That is what I was talking about! If u can complete task in less than 4 hrs, what is the problem with 24h deadline, except u can't hold stock of work units on computer that u use occasionally! Personally I have pretty old machines for today standards, and not some high performance crunching rigs, like that frustrated TPCBF thinks. One of my laptops is old dual core Athlon 64, and it needs 13,5-14,5 hrs to complete one FAH2 task per core, and you won't find posts about me complaining for 24h deadline because of that. I have even older laptop which can't run FAH2 at all due to lack of RAM, and now I suppose to require from admins and tech that they change memory restrictions of project just because of that? Sure, I have some newer machines besides these, but nothing fancy for today's standards. My point simple was to tell that most of people was fine with 24h deadline. Only problem there can be connectivity, but why someone would downloaded lot of WUs knowing that they won't be done in time when there are projects that have longer deadline? People can contribute to other projects in that case if they have that big problem with 24h deadline. I personally don't have problem with longer deadline, but as test shows, it will cause research to slow down! Yes, FAH2 WUs mostly got downloaded by number of cores you have on PC, plus one or two more since 7d deadline started.
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Re: 7 Day Deadlines for Test

I've only managed to get one of these elusive wus, which I returned in just under 27hrs. Previously a replacement wu would have been generated and sent at 24hrs, which then would have been aborted by the server as I returned a few hours later. So the test is good as it avoided that wasteful processing.
Perhaps 7 days is too much, 48 or 72 hours might be a better compromise.
Thanks.
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Well the [slap forehead] came pretty quick with the techs on this test, and now well more than 48 hours into this excursion it's established that production dropped to over one-quarter of what it was with the 24 hour deadline, just 3200 from before 11K plus daily. Day 3 noon shows 2148, so if lucky the stream will rise to about 40% of before at the end of this day. The scientists hoped to finish this before a year was over. Surely they can wait another year, or?
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Re: 7 Day Deadlines for Test

Perhaps 7 days is too much, 48 or 72 hours might be a better compromise.
Thanks.

like I said earlier, some compromise with 36-48hrs deadline would do the trick for people who aren't online that much. Tech implemented this experiment because of similarity with deadline on other projects and we must respect that, but results clearly shows that it's way less productive for project itself!
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Funny what one can do with the forum filters. Only 8 of 46, which is 17% of the posts in this thread came from you so far.

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Re: 7 Day Deadlines for Test

I've only gotten a few WUs so far - a few on the 7th and a few on the 10th. They all went to the same laptop with a 6 core i7. I have FAH2, ARP, and HSTB selected with anything else able to send work if those projects do not have any, with 1 day of work and and additional 1.5. Should this be changed?
I don't think FAH2 requires a lot more crunching time than MCM? Or am I wrong? I don't have a lot of experience with the new workunits. I know previously they were shorter WUs (or longer, now my memory is fading) but the scientists and developers came out with different workunits which seem to work better for the project.

I have several friends with this and so it will be something I concentrate on heavily - not for the badge hunting but for the science that will undoubtedly be performed.
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Re: 7 Day Deadlines for Test

It's always been my feeling that any speed gains FAHB gets by using a 1 day deadline are stolen from other projects. It's only because of the lack of other work on other WCG projects that I continue to support FAHB with a 1 day deadline at all.
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