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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Then I won't explain the advantages :-) The fact is that there was/is a very simple solution - just show members who didn't opt in as "hiddenmember-4352351" in the statistics (because the stats are not PII). But rather than implement this, IBM chose to kill the API (hopefully just temporarily). I'm telling them that for a month now...no difference!  |
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Sgt.Joe
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 4, 2006 Post Count: 7699 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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They would have to use a random number generator rather than an incremental numbering system, because if it was incremental, there may be a way to still indentify a particular person.
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Individual stats are not going to be reported for those users anyway. Why not report that activity under anonymous? It would be a reporting function only. The individual user would still be known to WCG but any reporting would only be done under the user anonymous. Each team would have one anonymous user and all "hidden member" data would be reported under that one ID. That way team stats are maintained. Regardless of ID, if a members data is reported uniquely it could possibly be identifiable. EX: 4 members of a team have selected "hidden" one member has 5,000,000 points and the others are 300,000 or less. Even if they had IDs hidden1 hidden2 hidden3 and hidden4, that one member could potentially be identified from older stats. If a member starts out hidden it is probably less likely. Just a thought.
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Former Member
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Easier to just lump all anonymous user data into one user "anonymous" and take away their ability to join teams and such, given the very purpose of teams is directly related to stat reporting.
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Synapp.IO
Cruncher United States Joined: Sep 16, 2017 Post Count: 18 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Also, lets not get paranoid about GDPR here. It doesn't require to 100% definitely make users unidentifiable. For example I could to timing analysis and see that Anonymous-514 stopped getting points the same time Sgt. Joe posted that he went on holiday and conclude that Anonymous-514 is in fact Sgt. Joe. GDPR does not require you to prevent this!
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
The EU should rather concentrate on privacy breaks like these
 - which has the potential to hurt somewhat more than say an ad for anti-wrinkle cream   - sorry  - and sorry for not staying away from this thread ...  |
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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They would have to use a random number generator rather than an incremental numbering system, because if it was incremental, there may be a way to still indentify a particular person. Cheers Or not use a number at all?!  |
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Jim1348
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 13, 2009 Post Count: 1066 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Or not use a number at all?! I am not at all clear about this, but it may be that crunchers want to identify themselves. Reducing them all to "anonymous" may drive them away as surely as not listing them at all. The question of how to identify people without identifying them is a new one. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Jim1348 at Jun 28, 2018 3:36:53 PM] |
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Former Member
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The idea is not to hide members from themselves but to not publicly identify them in reporting. Members will continue to use their original ID but in any public report (not requested by the member themselves) their contribution will be aggregated under "anonymous" for team or community level reporting.
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adamseve303
Cruncher Joined: May 10, 2018 Post Count: 3 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Is there any way for us to put pressure on IBM to get this GDPR done? This is getting ridiculous at this point. Who we do write letters to? I'm not talking e-mail... I'm talking postal snail mail from all over the world.
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