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Procyon Lotor One
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Well, I mostly understand that the OM types are difficult to estimate. Though I think the most aggravating parts for me about this situation is the LOW estimate assigned, the LONG time it takes to process the WU, and then the low to extremely low credit that is delivered.
I think assigning a real world estimate would at least make me feel a little better - that number actually being whatever the current formula results in times six or seven. |
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Bugg
Senior Cruncher USA Joined: Nov 19, 2006 Post Count: 271 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Well, for me, right now the estimates showing from the app are 5:16:37, and most all, once validated, seem to fall between 4.3 hours to 6.0 hours. There's a small percentage (maybe 10-15% of them total) that take longer. So I think the estimate is pretty close, to be honest. If you're wanting more exact estimates, then I don't know what to say except that, well, it's an estimate, not a timer.
----------------------------------------The point reward also seems to have scaled pretty close to properly, at least for me. Whereas previously I was getting 30-60 points for the smaller work units; now I am getting all the way up to 290+ for a couple, with only a couple exceptions thus far. ![]() i5-12600K (3.7GHz), 32GB DDR5, Win11 64bit Home |
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jussr
Cruncher Joined: Oct 16, 2017 Post Count: 6 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Oh, good, an explanation. I was starting to worry something was wrong with my machine when I saw one WU stuck at 75% after 15 hours, and another at 63% after 11.
Given that I currently look to be getting ~1% progress an hour and the deadline's in about 18 hours, hopefully it'll speed up again at some point. If not, I guess I'm going to have to babysit this for awhile to make sure any short deadline ones that come up are started immediately. It'd be really nice if the estimated times were at all reliable. |
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pcwr
Ace Cruncher England Joined: Sep 17, 2005 Post Count: 10903 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
System estimating these OM type WUs is somewhat out as my quad core has about 25 of them to do in 1 day, as all I got was a bunch of resends with a deadline of 4 days. They are currently taking over 13hrs to crunch.
----------------------------------------As I'm away, I'll have to see if the system can handle them without reporting Too Late. ![]() |
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slakin
Advanced Cruncher Joined: Jul 4, 2008 Post Count: 79 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I am having the same issue as powr ..getting more repairs than the machines can run despite a .5 day cache, driven by still having a much smaller estimate of time to complete than is realistic and some of these are running close to 28 hours. Would it be reasonable during the transition to bump the time to complete errors to 5 or 7 days? I would hate to lose the 39.4 points I will likely get when the tasks complete :-) OK so I too am a bit unhappy with point scores!
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Procyon Lotor One
Cruncher Joined: Jun 28, 2008 Post Count: 14 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Oh, I do agree. The Credit Claimed / Credit Granted for these results is starting to look a lot better. It has just been a rough week. Granted, I should have looked at the forum first when things went to heck. But my first reaction was to check for a virus or temperature issue. It was just so weird to have an estimate of two hours running for fourteen. I had even aborted a few WUs because I thought something was wrong with the computer. Things are better now!
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wolfman1360
Senior Cruncher Canada Joined: Jan 17, 2016 Post Count: 176 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
This is what I initially thought too!
----------------------------------------I was away for a while and only now noticed boinc had silently closed on an older i7-920 with 15 OET WUs in progress. One is 9.5 hours in and is 54% completed. Hopefully it can complete these in time. If I get a too late flag does this class me as unreliable for all hosts or only that one until a certain number of successful and on time work units are sent in? Headed somewhere with questionable internet for a while and would rather at least try and get these done. Edit: Oh dear. Intel Atom processors taking 40 hours to successfully complete WUs and only getting 39 points. I hope this will improve, though as someone else pointed out, at least the work is getting done.
Crunching for the betterment of human kind and the canines who will always be our best friends.
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Bugg
Senior Cruncher USA Joined: Nov 19, 2006 Post Count: 271 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Just my opinion here, so keep that in mind. I think some of you may just be too focused on getting points. I just download the stuff, let my computer do it's thing. I check each day to see how many hours' worth of computing time I got credited with, but beyond that, I really don't see the point in focusing on anything more than that. Some of you have been at this far more focused than I have. By that I mean that I took a few years off from this, and am now back into it. If I get the sapphire badges for things, great. If not, oh well. I will just try to get at least gold for each from here on out (barring any unforseen issues).
----------------------------------------Now, if this is a HOBBY (as in some people build things, others do sports, etc.) that you're seriously into; then to me that makes sense. I know there are a good number of people here that DO have this as a hobby. Kudos to you! :D I mean that in the most realistic sense! Again, just my opinion. :D ![]() i5-12600K (3.7GHz), 32GB DDR5, Win11 64bit Home |
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TPCBF
Master Cruncher USA Joined: Jan 2, 2011 Post Count: 1934 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Just my opinion here, so keep that in mind. I think some of you may just be too focused on getting points. I just download the stuff, let my computer do it's thing. I check each day to see how many hours' worth of computing time I got credited with, but beyond that, I really don't see the point in focusing on anything more than that. Some of you have been at this far more focused than I have. Sorry, but I think that you are one of those that get this all wrong. At least from my POV...... Again, just my opinion. :D I don't care about getting points per se, if I would, I would rather have my hosts crunch all for Einstein@Home. One host of mine that does gets alone up to twice as many points per day than all my WCG hosts combined. But the points are the most obvious statistic that is visible in BOINC and a serious drop off in points usually indicates that there is a problem with any of the hosts. That might not be an issue to quickly verify if you just have one or two hosts at home, but it is an issue if you have a few dozens (like I do, with a lot of them remote). Than this requires at least some additional time to verify, in particular for me, as I had issues with some OET WUs randomly 'getting stuck" (no check point, running up to 99.xx% but no CPU time accumulated), taking up "a slot", keeping other WUs from getting processed, on top of the issue with at times vastly incorrect runtime estimates, which overall is just wasting time and resources. So it isn't as simple as branding people complaining/being concerned as point ****, as some other regulars are doing as well... Ralf *edited to appropriate forum language - ErikaT ![]() [Edit 1 times, last edit by ErikaT at Apr 2, 2018 4:11:10 PM] |
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seippel
Former World Community Grid Tech Joined: Apr 16, 2009 Post Count: 392 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Is the approximate end date still around July? I would like to try and get 5 years on this project but also want to achieve 5 years on FAAH2 so its going to be a balancing act between the 2 projects for me. I've verified the total number of batches used in the website estimate is correct, so the estimate on the website is actually the best estimate I have at this point (this estimate has changed since you posted based on the longer runtimes). After 30 days of runing OET1 OM type workunits, the website estimate should be pretty accurate. Seippel |
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