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Re: Starting OET1 "OM" type workunits

I also noticed the massive reduction of credit/h (from about 50 to 30 points per h on a Ryzen 1700). Before that happened, I had a queue of app. 2 days old OET units, when the new units began to flow in. While running these, credit got up continously to about 100 points/h at the end.

But as I understand the credit system, this is expected when average times for a project go up and should be back to normal after some time. Let's see if this happens.

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Re: Starting OET1 "OM" type workunits

I seem to remember that the BOINC points calculation has an anti-cheat mode which allocates a low number if the time reported is very much too large for the estimated completion time. The predicted completion time is calculated from the estimated Gflops for the work unit and the speed of the CPU from the latest benchmark.
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I wasn't paying attention and just noticed the points are all over the place. One machine I have got 549 points for 7.5hrs and then got 39 points for the next one that took 8hrs. crying
Yeah, the same here. There is a 1000% difference between WUs even on the same host. Overall, since the new, longer WUs arrived, the points total each day has dropped by about 25%, with the same amount of total runtime each day... sad

Actually worse for me is that all those long running WUs now still come in with a 1-2h time estimate, hence loaded up accordingly, only to have each WU actually running up 10-20h. Looks like I will already be getting "no reply" WUs by tomorrow...

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Re: Starting OET1 "OM" type workunits

And so the repair work units start flowing.

On one of my machines I used to be lucky to see one or two OET WU a week and now it seems that every other WU I get is OET, with the majority of them being repair jobs so I get reduced time to clear these larger WUs. On a machine that doesn't crunch 24/7 I'm seriously going to have to consider about opting out of OET as the time between checkpoint saves can be hours and I don't like wasting that much processing time.
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Steve W; Have you considered hibernating your PC instead of shutting down?
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Re: Starting OET1 "OM" type workunits

And so the repair work units start flowing.

I have yet to see a repair unit on the longer running OET units. You must just be unlucky.
The run times on the OM units seemed to have stabilized in the 6 to 10 hour range and the progress percentages have come back to reality and now appear to be accurate again. (Intel 2600K stock hyperthreaded)
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I must be getting all the repair jobs then. Lucky me to have machines classed as reliable.

As ca05065 indicated, it currently looks like anything running 8 hours or more is hitting the BOINC anti-cheat mechanism and just requesting 39.4 points. At least thats what it looks like to me. I've got plenty of long OET WU with requested 39.4 points.
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It looks like that threshold is 12 hours for me.

OET1_ 0000628_ xMBGP-OM_ rig_ 44404_ 1-- mint Pending Validation 3/30/18 06:00:05 3/30/18 20:47:07 12.09 / 12.09 39.5 / 0.0

Here is one that is close but not over 12 hours.

OET1_ 0000640_ xSDGP-OM_ rig_ 31384_ 0-- mint Valid 3/30/18 03:22:41 3/30/18 16:38:28 11.56 / 11.57 209.1 / 209.1

They are only points. At least the work is getting done.

Edit: I spoke too soon. As I looked further here is one over 12 hours that was not affected. So I do not know what is happening, I am back to believing the point system is broken. love struck
OET1_ 0000631_ xMBGP-OM_ rig_ 77520_ 0-- mint Valid 3/29/18 23:19:39 3/30/18 14:12:08 12.45 / 12.45 224.6 / 224.6

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I must be getting all the repair jobs then. Lucky me to have machines classed as reliable.

As ca05065 indicated, it currently looks like anything running 8 hours or more is hitting the BOINC anti-cheat mechanism and just requesting 39.4 points. At least thats what it looks like to me. I've got plenty of long OET WU with requested 39.4 points.
That is certainly NOT the case:
OET1_ 0000630_ xMBGP-OM_ rig_ 29527_ 0-- 	TheInspiration 	Valid 	3/26/18 16:49:00 	3/30/18 05:33:59 	15.25 / 20.17 	532.7 / 532.7
OET1_ 0000657_ xZAGP-OM_ rig_ 1175_ 0-- TheInspiration Valid 3/26/18 14:08:31 3/29/18 11:56:12 14.73 / 19.53 39.5 / 39.5

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Well, in the spirit of this conversation, for me the new units are taking from 4.0-7.0 hours to finish. I run 24/7 with all 4 cores and don't stop it even when gaming on the machine. My machine stats are in my sig.
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