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Former Member
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Still don't see the payback in "optimizing" the BOINC program. Most research groups have limited resources (including WCG) and spending time optimizing BOINC would not be the best use of staff time. In addition, most of the science apps have been built to the "lowest common denominator" so they can be used on the greatest number and type of processors. Optimizing to the latest CPU features may actually do more harm than good to their project goals as it ultimately exclude a significant number of contributors. Once again, too much effort expended for very little, or even negative, return.
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SekeRob
Master Cruncher Joined: Jan 7, 2013 Post Count: 2741 Status: Offline |
A complete waste of time to 'optimize' the BOINC client... it takes less than 2 minutes of one thread a day to manage the science apps on 8 threads running concurrent 24-24
If anyone thinks the core client needs speeding up, dive into the open source code on github, submit your improved code, and it will be checked and if a accepted, committed by a REVIEWER and merged over at https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/commits/master |
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QuantumEthos
Senior Cruncher Joined: Jul 2, 2011 Post Count: 336 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Still don't see the payback in "optimizing" the BOINC program. Most research groups have limited resources (including WCG) and spending time optimizing BOINC would not be the best use of staff time. In addition, most of the science apps have been built to the "lowest common denominator" so they can be used on the greatest number and type of processors. Optimizing to the latest CPU features may actually do more harm than good to their project goals as it ultimately exclude a significant number of contributors. Once again, too much effort expended for very little, or even negative, return. ok simple .... we optimise the boinc programs understanding of what features the user has available to utilise and what resources to report, also optimise the feature set to include more eco friendly and performance related function calls, settings. and to report back to all boinc projects the full feature set of the utilisable hardware. this is relatively speaking a small workload for 2 or 3 programmers. |
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SekeRob
Master Cruncher Joined: Jan 7, 2013 Post Count: 2741 Status: Offline |
You may want to acquaint yourself with the term 'homogeneity', a Major issue when building a database of consistent results, or garbage.
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QuantumEthos
Senior Cruncher Joined: Jul 2, 2011 Post Count: 336 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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yes and this is why we class result's by similarity,
class and geni |
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Jack007
Master Cruncher CANADA Joined: Feb 25, 2005 Post Count: 1604 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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AMD Unveils 16 Core Threadripper CPUs, The “World’s Fastest” For High End Desktops http://wccftech.com/amd-unveils-16-core-threa...fastest-high-end-desktop/ OK, THIS is my new build :D ![]() |
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Falconet
Master Cruncher Portugal Joined: Mar 9, 2009 Post Count: 3315 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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AMD Unveils 16 Core Threadripper CPUs, The “World’s Fastest” For High End Desktops http://wccftech.com/amd-unveils-16-core-threa...fastest-high-end-desktop/ OK, THIS is my new build :D It's supposed to come out really soon, June or July. Just around the corner ;) ![]() - AMD Ryzen 5 1600AF 6C/12T 3.2 GHz - 85W - AMD Ryzen 5 2500U 4C/8T 2.0 GHz - 28W - AMD Ryzen 7 7730U 8C/16T 3.0 GHz |
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Jack007
Master Cruncher CANADA Joined: Feb 25, 2005 Post Count: 1604 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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It will come out sooner than I can come up with the money,
----------------------------------------but hopefully the summer will pay off and I can pick one up. Then my I7 2600K becomes permanent windows 7 basement cruncher. 32 more cores makes 52 total.... CRAZY. ![]() |
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ThreadRipper
Veteran Cruncher Sweden Joined: Apr 26, 2007 Post Count: 1324 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I'm also hooked up on the Threadripper CPU, can't wait! :)
----------------------------------------![]() Join The International Team: https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=CK9RP1BKX1 AMD TR2990WX @ PBO, 64GB Quad 3200MHz 14-17-17-17-1T, RX6900XT @ Stock AMD 3800X @ PBO AMD 2700X @ 4GHz |
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Former Member
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Does anyone think the threadripper will force pricing down on the other cpus? I know its in a different category, but one can wish. I want to start a new build around November to take advantage of the sales, so by then I am hoping the ryzen 1700 will be dropping in price.
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