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VietOZ
Senior Cruncher United States Joined: Apr 8, 2007 Post Count: 205 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I'll install linux on my 5960X sometime next week to compare. Have to finish off the cache.
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duanebong
Advanced Cruncher Singapore Joined: Apr 25, 2009 Post Count: 134 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Here's another data point to share about Ryzen's performance, compared to my i7-4770K. Work units run were mainly from SCC from the past few days, but with an occassional HSTB thrown in (I have both projects selected, but HSTBs are rare like hens teeth).
----------------------------------------AMD Ryzen 1700 (non-X) running 16 threads Clockspeed @ 3.3GHz (stock is 3.0GHz, 3.7GHz turbo boost) Total Run Time Points generated 0:015:07:49:15 89,602 0:014:21:54:21 93,016 0:012:10:57:03 77,221 0:014:22:56:24 84,415 Average points per day = 86,064 Intel i7 4770K running 8 threads Clockspeed @ 4.0GHz (stock is 3.5GHz, 3.9GHz turbo boost) Total Run Time Points generated 0:008:15:23:22 49,919 0:007:19:18:12 48,925 0:008:08:58:25 54,147 0:008:16:10:33 29,559 Average points per day = 45,638 I'm clocking the Ryzen 1700 conservatively at 3.3GHz as it's only on the boxed AMD Wraith cooler, whereas my 4770K has a Corsair H110i watercooler. Both PCs are not being pushed too hard for the sake of the hardware's long term longevity under continuous full load operation. We can also analyse IPC very roughly by calculating PPD / threads / clockspeed. Ryzen 7 = 1630 points/thread/GHz i7 4770K = 1426 points/thread/GHz Caveat that we're looking at a load consisting of mainly SCC work units, we see Summit Ridge having a ~14% higher IPC per thread than Haswell. Additionally, it also has double the number of cores/threads. Overall, despite the clockspeed deficit we're looking at Ryzen having a 1.89x lead in the points per day. If you're wondering if Ryzen makes a good WCG cruncher you now have the answer! ![]() |
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Former Member
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For a bit of balanace I thought i'd share my data point to share about Ryzen's performance, compared to 4 other rigs all running exclusively SCC units
AMD Ryzen 1700x running 16 threads, Windows 10 Clockspeed @3.8Ghz 04/05/2017 0:008:15:07:58 43,739 156 04/04/2017 0:015:09:56:19 80,118 295 04/03/2017 0:017:07:49:56 92,117 407 04/02/2017 0:011:02:07:26 62,330 252 04/01/2017 0:011:19:44:50 65,406 271 03/31/2017 0:016:09:10:12 93,290 374 03/30/2017 0:016:19:16:55 94,120 396 03/29/2017 0:008:16:39:03 50,847 245 03/28/2017 0:015:20:55:35 90,027 449 03/27/2017 0:015:22:10:13 96,781 422 03/26/2017 0:017:05:58:56 111,655 451 03/25/2017 0:017:07:25:49 113,969 429 03/24/2017 0:016:02:25:47 119,468 394 03/23/2017 0:015:19:19:51 124,257 347 Intel i7 6700k running 8 threads (one of two), Ubuntu Clockspeed @4.2 Ghz (stock) 04/05/2017 0:004:00:51:44 28,794 102 04/04/2017 0:007:22:15:21 70,222 264 04/03/2017 0:008:08:00:53 73,683 332 04/02/2017 0:007:12:18:56 66,487 284 04/01/2017 0:008:07:27:40 73,540 304 03/31/2017 0:007:23:53:18 75,964 315 03/30/2017 0:007:12:43:50 69,009 278 03/29/2017 0:008:10:25:10 70,267 308 03/28/2017 0:008:06:59:00 83,295 415 03/27/2017 0:007:16:24:46 81,439 336 03/26/2017 0:007:22:59:16 89,999 362 03/25/2017 0:007:21:56:05 110,317 389 03/24/2017 0:007:22:39:09 119,965 354 03/23/2017 0:008:12:39:13 127,528 341 Intel i7 6700k running 8 threads (two of two), Ubuntu 04/05/2017 0:004:01:25:40 32,277 117 04/04/2017 0:007:21:39:49 71,686 278 04/03/2017 0:008:03:21:44 76,654 347 04/02/2017 0:008:05:52:01 76,444 329 04/01/2017 0:007:15:42:17 70,705 294 03/31/2017 0:007:20:58:51 68,259 277 03/30/2017 0:008:05:51:21 74,260 299 03/29/2017 0:007:14:22:43 75,174 330 03/28/2017 0:008:02:34:31 83,896 411 03/27/2017 0:007:21:49:15 90,058 382 03/26/2017 0:008:11:25:16 105,020 413 03/25/2017 0:007:19:15:29 97,266 344 03/24/2017 0:008:01:48:13 124,223 375 03/23/2017 0:007:15:31:22 113,707 308 Intel i7 3930k running 12 threads, Ubuntu Clockspeed @ 3.8Ghz (stock, one of two) 04/05/2017 0:006:04:24:25 30,476 115 04/04/2017 0:011:14:07:00 75,578 287 04/03/2017 0:012:07:05:26 79,673 361 04/02/2017 0:011:17:17:01 76,379 326 04/01/2017 0:012:08:21:20 81,492 332 03/31/2017 0:012:05:04:36 83,302 353 03/30/2017 0:011:14:08:25 75,962 315 03/29/2017 0:011:21:45:58 79,489 357 03/28/2017 0:012:11:24:57 93,257 453 03/27/2017 0:011:15:05:17 91,039 387 03/26/2017 0:011:17:52:22 98,526 395 03/25/2017 0:012:00:17:04 105,869 368 03/24/2017 0:011:17:53:28 125,315 371 03/23/2017 0:012:11:14:51 141,827 368 Intel i7 3930k running 12 threads, Ubuntu Clockspeed @ 4.2Ghz (two of two) 04/05/2017 0:005:21:44:38 41,308 159 04/04/2017 0:011:23:28:35 86,361 332 04/03/2017 0:012:12:05:30 98,175 442 04/02/2017 0:011:08:48:49 84,935 364 04/01/2017 0:011:23:59:12 94,700 389 03/31/2017 0:011:19:49:35 89,510 382 03/30/2017 0:012:09:01:49 92,563 367 03/29/2017 0:011:12:47:10 92,925 419 03/28/2017 0:011:22:37:19 102,979 507 03/27/2017 0:012:14:41:40 115,145 493 03/26/2017 0:011:21:43:38 111,972 474 03/25/2017 0:011:10:51:21 130,828 464 03/24/2017 0:012:07:24:49 160,774 478 03/23/2017 0:012:18:13:23 165,501 450 Ryzen is ok, but getting roundly smacked by a 6 year old i7 on a regular basis isn't what I expected, but I've splashed out on an X370 motherboard and a HAF x case for better cooling so might be able to run it harder without it falling over, once I can be botherd to swap it all over, if it improves i'll report back |
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duanebong
Advanced Cruncher Singapore Joined: Apr 25, 2009 Post Count: 134 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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@Paul_D... any chance to run Ubuntu on the Ryzen, or Windows on your i7s?
----------------------------------------Potentially the difference could be coming from the different OS. My 4770K @ 4GHz (running on Windows 7) scores 45.6K points per day, whereas your 6700K seems to be 1.5 - 2x this figure. The difference can't be explained by hardware - Skylake is ~10% faster in IPC than Haswell, and your clockspeed is only 5% faster. ![]() |
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VietOZ
Senior Cruncher United States Joined: Apr 8, 2007 Post Count: 205 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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@Pau_D: Put ubuntu on your Ryzen and see it shine
---------------------------------------- Here's my head to head comparison: Ryzen 1700 at 3.7ghz vs I7-5960X at 4.25ghz 8c/16T vs 8C/16T 167W vs 306W (both measured at the wall) $330 vs $1100 Linux vs Linux Same project on WCG: SCC + FAAH I7 is running with 3000mhz DDR 15-15-15-36 and the Ryzen is running with 2400mhz DDR 14-14-14-31 I backed the Ryzen down to 3.625ghz after 1 day due to temperature issues. I need a better cooler. Ryzen 1700 (non X) I7-5960X For $330, Ryzen is a beast |
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fuzzydice555
Advanced Cruncher Joined: Mar 25, 2015 Post Count: 89 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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AMD Ryzen 1700x running 16 threads, Windows 10 Intel i7 6700k running 8 threads (one of two), Ubuntu Intel i7 6700k running 8 threads (two of two), Ubuntu Intel i7 3930k running 12 threads, Ubuntu Intel i7 3930k running 12 threads, Ubuntu Ryzen is ok, but getting roundly smacked by a 6 year old i7 on a regular basis isn't what I expected, but I've splashed out on an X370 motherboard and a HAF x case for better cooling so might be able to run it harder without it falling over, once I can be botherd to swap it all over, if it improves i'll report back I highlighted the issue There is a 30% points difference between windows and ubuntu. Once you change your 1700X to ubuntu, it will "roundly smack" your other crunchers. The mobo and case won't make a difference though. Ryzen doesn't overclock well at all. If you value efficiency, just leave it at stock. ![]() [Edit 1 times, last edit by fuzzydice555 at Apr 5, 2017 6:16:57 PM] |
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VietOZ
Senior Cruncher United States Joined: Apr 8, 2007 Post Count: 205 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Ryzen doesn't overclock well at all. If you value efficiency, just leave it at stock. I can 2nd to this. As far as I can tell, overclock doesn't give any significant boost in performance for crunching at all. We may see it when benchmarking, but for crunching it's not worth it. Ryzen seems to love stock when 24/7 load. Just leave everything on Auto and let it does its things ![]() |
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duanebong
Advanced Cruncher Singapore Joined: Apr 25, 2009 Post Count: 134 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Provided adequate cooling, Ryzen performance does continue to scale with increasing clockspeed. However, efficiency starts to fall apart once it exceeds around 3.5GHz:
----------------------------------------3.0GHz (0.950V): 61W 3.1GHz (0.975V): 66W (+5W per 100MHz increase) 3.2GHz (1.000V): 71W (+5W per 100MHz increase) 3.3GHz (1.025V): 76W (+5W per 100MHz increase) 3.4GHz (1.063V): 83W (+7W per 100MHz increase) 3.5GHz (1.081V): 88W (+5W per 100MHz increase) 3.6GHz (1.163V): 107W (+19W per 100MHz increase) 3.7GHz (1.200V): 119W (+12W per 100MHz increase) 3.8GHz (1.263V): 134W (+15W per 100MHz increase) 3.9GHz (1.356V): 165W (+31W per 100MHz increase) Source: https://hardforum.com/threads/ryzen-7-1700-b350-overclocking-tidbits.1926296/ ![]() |
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Falconet
Master Cruncher Portugal Joined: Mar 9, 2009 Post Count: 3315 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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New BIOS updates coming soon:
----------------------------------------https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboar..._agesa_microcode_update/1 ![]() - AMD Ryzen 5 1600AF 6C/12T 3.2 GHz - 85W - AMD Ryzen 5 2500U 4C/8T 2.0 GHz - 28W - AMD Ryzen 7 7730U 8C/16T 3.0 GHz |
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dondee
Advanced Cruncher Joined: Jan 16, 2006 Post Count: 100 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I have been running a 1700 for about two weeks. I gutted an i5 4670k and I am more than pleased with the performance. I was hesitant to jump in but I couldn't wait.
The power consumption is about the same as my still running i7 4790k at about 4.2mhz. I learned a long time ago that over clocking didn't really produce much more benefit so I don't mess with it much any more, maybe a little massaging here and there. I am running linux mint 18.1, but I am going to put 17.3 on it, there are a couple minor problems. All the settings and voltages are stock and I am using the wraith cooler. There doesn't seem to be any utilities for temperature reporting so I am playing rather safe with the cooling air. I have the bios set to alarm if the cpu temp goes over 70c, which has not happened. Power consumption at the plug is about 135w with a 5450 video card. I had a gt650 ti sc in and thought putting the 5450 card in would save power. Actually, the consumption went up 2-3 watts. As far power is concerned there seems to little difference between the intel and the amd at full throttle. My 1700 set up idles a little over 50 watts which is about a third less than the 4790k. I think to me it makes more sense, if you can afford to do so, to get a 1700 and run one computer than to have several lesser computers running and consuming a large amount of power. I have gone the many lesser computer route and the combined power consumption was just too much. I have even thought about retiring my i7, yea but not too long. I hope about this time next year I can replace my i7. I hope this helpful for someone. |
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