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Re: Ryzen performance

I'll install linux on my 5960X sometime next week to compare. Have to finish off the cache.

8 cores VS 8 cores, same OS same project.
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Re: Ryzen performance

Here's another data point to share about Ryzen's performance, compared to my i7-4770K. Work units run were mainly from SCC from the past few days, but with an occassional HSTB thrown in (I have both projects selected, but HSTBs are rare like hens teeth).

AMD Ryzen 1700 (non-X) running 16 threads
Clockspeed @ 3.3GHz (stock is 3.0GHz, 3.7GHz turbo boost)
Total Run Time Points generated
0:015:07:49:15 89,602
0:014:21:54:21 93,016
0:012:10:57:03 77,221
0:014:22:56:24 84,415
Average points per day = 86,064

Intel i7 4770K running 8 threads
Clockspeed @ 4.0GHz (stock is 3.5GHz, 3.9GHz turbo boost)
Total Run Time Points generated
0:008:15:23:22 49,919
0:007:19:18:12 48,925
0:008:08:58:25 54,147
0:008:16:10:33 29,559
Average points per day = 45,638

I'm clocking the Ryzen 1700 conservatively at 3.3GHz as it's only on the boxed AMD Wraith cooler, whereas my 4770K has a Corsair H110i watercooler. Both PCs are not being pushed too hard for the sake of the hardware's long term longevity under continuous full load operation. We can also analyse IPC very roughly by calculating PPD / threads / clockspeed.

Ryzen 7 = 1630 points/thread/GHz
i7 4770K = 1426 points/thread/GHz

Caveat that we're looking at a load consisting of mainly SCC work units, we see Summit Ridge having a ~14% higher IPC per thread than Haswell. Additionally, it also has double the number of cores/threads. Overall, despite the clockspeed deficit we're looking at Ryzen having a 1.89x lead in the points per day. If you're wondering if Ryzen makes a good WCG cruncher you now have the answer!
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Re: Ryzen performance

For a bit of balanace I thought i'd share my data point to share about Ryzen's performance, compared to 4 other rigs all running exclusively SCC units

AMD Ryzen 1700x running 16 threads, Windows 10

Clockspeed @3.8Ghz

04/05/2017 0:008:15:07:58 43,739 156
04/04/2017 0:015:09:56:19 80,118 295
04/03/2017 0:017:07:49:56 92,117 407
04/02/2017 0:011:02:07:26 62,330 252
04/01/2017 0:011:19:44:50 65,406 271
03/31/2017 0:016:09:10:12 93,290 374
03/30/2017 0:016:19:16:55 94,120 396
03/29/2017 0:008:16:39:03 50,847 245
03/28/2017 0:015:20:55:35 90,027 449
03/27/2017 0:015:22:10:13 96,781 422
03/26/2017 0:017:05:58:56 111,655 451
03/25/2017 0:017:07:25:49 113,969 429
03/24/2017 0:016:02:25:47 119,468 394
03/23/2017 0:015:19:19:51 124,257 347

Intel i7 6700k running 8 threads (one of two), Ubuntu

Clockspeed @4.2 Ghz (stock)

04/05/2017 0:004:00:51:44 28,794 102
04/04/2017 0:007:22:15:21 70,222 264
04/03/2017 0:008:08:00:53 73,683 332
04/02/2017 0:007:12:18:56 66,487 284
04/01/2017 0:008:07:27:40 73,540 304
03/31/2017 0:007:23:53:18 75,964 315
03/30/2017 0:007:12:43:50 69,009 278
03/29/2017 0:008:10:25:10 70,267 308
03/28/2017 0:008:06:59:00 83,295 415
03/27/2017 0:007:16:24:46 81,439 336
03/26/2017 0:007:22:59:16 89,999 362
03/25/2017 0:007:21:56:05 110,317 389
03/24/2017 0:007:22:39:09 119,965 354
03/23/2017 0:008:12:39:13 127,528 341

Intel i7 6700k running 8 threads (two of two), Ubuntu

04/05/2017 0:004:01:25:40 32,277 117
04/04/2017 0:007:21:39:49 71,686 278
04/03/2017 0:008:03:21:44 76,654 347
04/02/2017 0:008:05:52:01 76,444 329
04/01/2017 0:007:15:42:17 70,705 294
03/31/2017 0:007:20:58:51 68,259 277
03/30/2017 0:008:05:51:21 74,260 299
03/29/2017 0:007:14:22:43 75,174 330
03/28/2017 0:008:02:34:31 83,896 411
03/27/2017 0:007:21:49:15 90,058 382
03/26/2017 0:008:11:25:16 105,020 413
03/25/2017 0:007:19:15:29 97,266 344
03/24/2017 0:008:01:48:13 124,223 375
03/23/2017 0:007:15:31:22 113,707 308

Intel i7 3930k running 12 threads, Ubuntu

Clockspeed @ 3.8Ghz (stock, one of two)

04/05/2017 0:006:04:24:25 30,476 115
04/04/2017 0:011:14:07:00 75,578 287
04/03/2017 0:012:07:05:26 79,673 361
04/02/2017 0:011:17:17:01 76,379 326
04/01/2017 0:012:08:21:20 81,492 332
03/31/2017 0:012:05:04:36 83,302 353
03/30/2017 0:011:14:08:25 75,962 315
03/29/2017 0:011:21:45:58 79,489 357
03/28/2017 0:012:11:24:57 93,257 453
03/27/2017 0:011:15:05:17 91,039 387
03/26/2017 0:011:17:52:22 98,526 395
03/25/2017 0:012:00:17:04 105,869 368
03/24/2017 0:011:17:53:28 125,315 371
03/23/2017 0:012:11:14:51 141,827 368

Intel i7 3930k running 12 threads, Ubuntu

Clockspeed @ 4.2Ghz (two of two)

04/05/2017 0:005:21:44:38 41,308 159
04/04/2017 0:011:23:28:35 86,361 332
04/03/2017 0:012:12:05:30 98,175 442
04/02/2017 0:011:08:48:49 84,935 364
04/01/2017 0:011:23:59:12 94,700 389
03/31/2017 0:011:19:49:35 89,510 382
03/30/2017 0:012:09:01:49 92,563 367
03/29/2017 0:011:12:47:10 92,925 419
03/28/2017 0:011:22:37:19 102,979 507
03/27/2017 0:012:14:41:40 115,145 493
03/26/2017 0:011:21:43:38 111,972 474
03/25/2017 0:011:10:51:21 130,828 464
03/24/2017 0:012:07:24:49 160,774 478
03/23/2017 0:012:18:13:23 165,501 450


Ryzen is ok, but getting roundly smacked by a 6 year old i7 on a regular basis isn't what I expected, but I've splashed out on an X370 motherboard and a HAF x case for better cooling so might be able to run it harder without it falling over, once I can be botherd to swap it all over, if it improves i'll report back
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Re: Ryzen performance

@Paul_D... any chance to run Ubuntu on the Ryzen, or Windows on your i7s?

Potentially the difference could be coming from the different OS. My 4770K @ 4GHz (running on Windows 7) scores 45.6K points per day, whereas your 6700K seems to be 1.5 - 2x this figure. The difference can't be explained by hardware - Skylake is ~10% faster in IPC than Haswell, and your clockspeed is only 5% faster.
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Re: Ryzen performance

@Pau_D: Put ubuntu on your Ryzen and see it shine biggrin

Here's my head to head comparison:

Ryzen 1700 at 3.7ghz vs I7-5960X at 4.25ghz
8c/16T vs 8C/16T
167W vs 306W (both measured at the wall)
$330 vs $1100
Linux vs Linux
Same project on WCG: SCC + FAAH
I7 is running with 3000mhz DDR 15-15-15-36 and the Ryzen is running with 2400mhz DDR 14-14-14-31

I backed the Ryzen down to 3.625ghz after 1 day due to temperature issues. I need a better cooler.


Ryzen 1700 (non X)


I7-5960X


For $330, Ryzen is a beast
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AMD Ryzen 1700x running 16 threads, Windows 10

Intel i7 6700k running 8 threads (one of two), Ubuntu

Intel i7 6700k running 8 threads (two of two), Ubuntu

Intel i7 3930k running 12 threads, Ubuntu

Intel i7 3930k running 12 threads, Ubuntu

Ryzen is ok, but getting roundly smacked by a 6 year old i7 on a regular basis isn't what I expected, but I've splashed out on an X370 motherboard and a HAF x case for better cooling so might be able to run it harder without it falling over, once I can be botherd to swap it all over, if it improves i'll report back


I highlighted the issue smile

There is a 30% points difference between windows and ubuntu.

Once you change your 1700X to ubuntu, it will "roundly smack" your other crunchers.

The mobo and case won't make a difference though. Ryzen doesn't overclock well at all. If you value efficiency, just leave it at stock.
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Re: Ryzen performance

Ryzen doesn't overclock well at all. If you value efficiency, just leave it at stock.


I can 2nd to this. As far as I can tell, overclock doesn't give any significant boost in performance for crunching at all. We may see it when benchmarking, but for crunching it's not worth it. Ryzen seems to love stock when 24/7 load. Just leave everything on Auto and let it does its things biggrin
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Re: Ryzen performance

Provided adequate cooling, Ryzen performance does continue to scale with increasing clockspeed. However, efficiency starts to fall apart once it exceeds around 3.5GHz:

3.0GHz (0.950V): 61W
3.1GHz (0.975V): 66W (+5W per 100MHz increase)
3.2GHz (1.000V): 71W (+5W per 100MHz increase)
3.3GHz (1.025V): 76W (+5W per 100MHz increase)
3.4GHz (1.063V): 83W (+7W per 100MHz increase)
3.5GHz (1.081V): 88W (+5W per 100MHz increase)
3.6GHz (1.163V): 107W (+19W per 100MHz increase)
3.7GHz (1.200V): 119W (+12W per 100MHz increase)
3.8GHz (1.263V): 134W (+15W per 100MHz increase)
3.9GHz (1.356V): 165W (+31W per 100MHz increase)

Source: https://hardforum.com/threads/ryzen-7-1700-b350-overclocking-tidbits.1926296/
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- AMD Ryzen 7 7730U 8C/16T 3.0 GHz
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Re: Ryzen performance

I have been running a 1700 for about two weeks. I gutted an i5 4670k and I am more than pleased with the performance. I was hesitant to jump in but I couldn't wait.
The power consumption is about the same as my still running i7 4790k at about 4.2mhz. I learned a long time ago that over clocking didn't really produce much more benefit so I don't mess with it much any more, maybe a little massaging here and there.
I am running linux mint 18.1, but I am going to put 17.3 on it, there are a couple minor problems.
All the settings and voltages are stock and I am using the wraith cooler. There doesn't seem to be any utilities for temperature reporting so I am playing rather safe with the cooling air. I have the bios set to alarm if the cpu temp goes over 70c, which has not happened.
Power consumption at the plug is about 135w with a 5450 video card. I had a gt650 ti sc in and thought putting the 5450 card in would save power. Actually, the consumption went up 2-3 watts.
As far power is concerned there seems to little difference between the intel and the amd at full throttle. My 1700 set up idles a little over 50 watts which is about a third less than the 4790k.
I think to me it makes more sense, if you can afford to do so, to get a 1700 and run one computer than to have several lesser computers running and consuming a large amount of power. I have gone the many lesser computer route and the combined power consumption was just too much.
I have even thought about retiring my i7, yea but not too long. laughing
I hope about this time next year I can replace my i7.

I hope this helpful for someone.
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