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Re: AMD (Ry)Zen has launched

Personally, I think the R7 1700 is the best CPU. 16 threads, 65 watt TDP with this review saying that under "heavy CPU workload" it uses 132 watts (the whole computer, that is). And apparently it can be overclocked to 3.5 Ghz quite easily from what I've read.

Ryzen 1700 with 64-bit Linux :D
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- AMD Ryzen 5 1600AF 6C/12T 3.2 GHz - 85W
- AMD Ryzen 5 2500U 4C/8T 2.0 GHz - 28W
- AMD Ryzen 7 7730U 8C/16T 3.0 GHz
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Re: AMD (Ry)Zen has launched

Managed to find one, I had spent my lunchtime at work searching and found nothing but this evening I found a couple of sites that have CPU's but one (right on my doorstep near work) that has CPU's but no motherboards not talking

Ordered a R7 1700 and all the other bits to go with, goodbye £1400+, the wife will go stratospheric when she finds out silly

It'll be my main machine rather than a dedicated cruncher so the 3930 I'm sat at now will have Linux put on it and sit in a corner exclusively crunching.

I'll do a 24 hour 'burn in' test running BOINC and nothing else to get a take on performance levels relative to the 6700K and 3930K systems that crunch 24/7, be an interesting comparison, watch this space folks, the bits should arrive Saturday so I'll have it built and running that day and do a midnight Saturday to midnight Sunday run and report crunch numbers*







*this is of course if all goes well, like it arriving and not me going psycho because a site has claimed stock they don't have, I really REALLY won't be happy if that's the case.
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Re: AMD (Ry)Zen has launched

Such an exciting time for crunchers! biggrin


The 1700 even comes with a Wraith cooler, which from what I'm hearing is MUCH better than Intel's stock cooler. With a 65W TDP, I wouldn't be surprised to get 3.6-3.7GHz on it with just that cooler. smile

More importantly, though, I think this launch is very important in considering future CPU releases. I believe that AMD has effectively brought 8-core computing to an order of magnitude more people, and I don't think it'll be long before 8 becomes the new 4, 4 becomes the new 2, and 2 gets phased out of existence (at least in desktop PCs). I mean, come on. We've had dual-core desktop CPUs since 2005; I think it's time we move on. smile
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1: Xeon E5-2695 v3 @ 2.5GHz turbo (14C/28T)
2: Xeon E5-2658 v3 @ 2.3GHz turbo (12C/24T)
3: Ryzen 7 1700 @ 3.675GHz OC (8C/16T)
4: Core i7-4700MQ @ 3.2GHz cTDP up (4C/8T)
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Re: AMD (Ry)Zen has launched

The power consumption looks high:

https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/AMD-...nsumption-and-Conclusions

'In fact, despite the 95 watt TDP, the Ryzen CPU uses about the same power as the 140 watt Broadwell-E processors.'

132 watts at the wall for the Ryzen 1700 also seems high.

Edit: Ryzen has half the AVX instruction throughput of Intel if that ever becomes an issue here.
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Re: AMD (Ry)Zen has launched

The 132 watt comsumption from the 1700 was total system usage. And it scored the lowest under "heavy load" among all the AMD and Intel that they tested.

I'm on an AMD A8-6500 using 92 watts for 4 cores so the difference is abysmal in comparison to previous AMD CPU's/APU's when you remember that the 1700 has 16 threads.
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- AMD Ryzen 5 1600AF 6C/12T 3.2 GHz - 85W
- AMD Ryzen 5 2500U 4C/8T 2.0 GHz - 28W
- AMD Ryzen 7 7730U 8C/16T 3.0 GHz
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Re: AMD (Ry)Zen has launched

I wouldn't read too much into minor differences in power usage.

The fact is Ryzen is a game changer for us crunchers in that it's going to make efficient high core count crunching possible for all of us no matter which brand suits you.
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Re: AMD (Ry)Zen has launched

I looked a little harder and found Ryzen can be made to fit in 65 watts. It requires turning XFR off. And then underclocking to 3.3 GHz using Vmin. It saves 52 watts over a stock 1800X with XFR on (111 vs 59).

(Scroll down to the graphs for power consumption)

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ryzen-strictly-technical.2500572/
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Re: AMD (Ry)Zen has launched

I looked a little harder and found Ryzen can be made to fit in 65 watts. It requires turning XFR off. And then underclocking to 3.3 GHz using Vmin. It saves 52 watts over a stock 1800X with XFR on (111 vs 59)./


...or you can just buy the 1700 which is already at 65 watt TDP.
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Re: AMD (Ry)Zen has launched

Regarding power consumption, see page 9 of this review of the Ryzen 1700:
http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700-...st-ryzen-processor_192191 (look for the base, not overclocked numbers; and this may not be the most credible source, so take it with a grain of salt)

Passmark has very few samples, but they do finally have their initial benchmark numbers posted: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+7+1700&id=2970

I am convinced enough to take the plunge and give the Ryzen 7 1700 a test in my WCG cluster.
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Re: AMD (Ry)Zen has launched

On page 9, the 60 watt i3 7350K uses 75 watts at the wall. The 65 watt Ryzen 1700 uses 125 watts at the wall. A 65 watt Ryzen uses 50 more watts than a 60 watt i3 although their TDP specifications are similar. My 65 watt Intel's use 85 watts at the wall. Not the 125-132 seen with the Ryzen 1700. So it looks like we can't compare TDP between the manufacturers. I mentioned earlier Ryzen appears like it can be slightly underclocked to save as much as 50 watts, which would be worth it to me.
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