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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
I would suggest updating the age policy to allow people under 18 to contribute with parental permission (I'm 49, FYI). I suspect the reason the policy was changed was to reflect the collection of personal information by the WCG. That requires the ability to legally consent to such on your own behalf or the consent of a parent or guardian. For a community service organization I doubt securing such permission will be difficult.
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RaymondFO
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Nov 30, 2004 Post Count: 561 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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The Terms of Use Section 3(e) that states in part:
----------------------------------------"You may cease being a participant on the WCG Site or any WCG Projects at any time for any reason or no reason at all. If you cease your participation in WCG, your member name will be deactivated (so you cannot access the site anymore), but your User Content (associated with your member name) will remain on the Site visible to other participants." Question: If a person simply stops participating and does not give written notice, at what point in time if or will IBM/WCG deactivate the user account? Several months? Years? I understand the broad latitude WCG/IBM requires especially when for example a cruncher passes away and obviously written notice cannot be given. [Edit 1 times, last edit by RaymondFO at Jul 19, 2016 2:08:05 AM] |
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Former Member
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So I know you've made changes to the docs. Would it be too much to ask for a markup of the changes from the previous version so they can be reviewed?
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Ardis
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"This effort also aims to simply much of the language used in our policies and ensure continued compliance with IBM guidelines and best practices."
Should that be "simplify", perhaps? |
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Dataman
Ace Cruncher Joined: Nov 16, 2004 Post Count: 4865 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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+1 on the clarifications to the User Agreement and Community Guidelines. They are much needed and much overdue as well. It must have taken ages to get them through IBM's Legal Division.
---------------------------------------- Policies are one thing, however; enforcement is another. I trust the new policies will come with a mechanism for enforcement that has been sporatic in the past.I agree with others that the 18 year old age for participation is neither fair nor enforceable. Cheers!   |
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Jozef J
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" 18 year old age for participation" Are you serious? Are you kidding? So if someone under 18 turns boinc WCG so consciously committed a violation of the conditions..??
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enels
Senior Cruncher Joined: Apr 25, 2008 Post Count: 286 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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My guess is the 'adult clause' is to protect the WCG against minors who run the WCG on home/school computers without explicit permission from the person paying for the electricity.
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RaymondFO
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Nov 30, 2004 Post Count: 561 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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My guess is the 'adult clause' is to protect the WCG against minors who run the WCG on home/school computers without explicit permission from the person paying for the electricity. The other issue is when you accept the terms of use you must be of majority age (legal age) to accept and agree with the contract (terms of use). The terms of use may not be legally binding or enforceable for minors as they are not of legal age, which in the United States is generally deemed to be 18 years old. The language in Section 1 "You are at least 18 years old ..." is a representation the user is making and that should/could make the contract legally enforceable and binding (and helps to limit IBM/WCG legal risk issues), otherwise the user who is not of legal age may/could have liability. Generally speaking and this is may or may not be the case in all situations, minors cannot into contracts as they may not be enforceable and legally declared null and void. Please note the above is not a legal opinion, just my thoughts. |
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Sandvika
Advanced Cruncher United Kingdom Joined: Apr 27, 2007 Post Count: 112 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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"World Community Grid members must be 18 years of age or older in order to join World Community Grid." Why? I mean, I joined in March of 2009 and I was 14 years old at that time... It's not like there is dangerous content at WCG. (And if there is, i.e on the forums, the admins seem to be very active on that issue). I'm 16. Does this change mean I can no longer contribute to WCG on the computer, phone, and tablet that I purchased and willingly attached to the project? I think you're fantastic for getting involved so young. I think it reflects an early love of science and a desire to be contributors to society. These are great traits to have. I think this is exactly what IBM should be encouraging. You might become inspired to become research scientists..... maybe even at IBM. If you're old enough to have a social media account then I think you're more than old enough to have an account here. This needs to be considered sensibly and it seems like it may not have been.  An age limit of over 18 does not make any sense at all to me..... If this proves to be a sticking point give your account to an older relative and ask them to supervise you    |
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ErikaT
Former World Community Grid Admin USA Joined: Apr 27, 2009 Post Count: 912 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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"This effort also aims to simply much of the language used in our policies and ensure continued compliance with IBM guidelines and best practices." Thank you for bringing this to our attention. It has been fixed.Should that be "simplify", perhaps? ErikaT |
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