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Re: Mapping Cancer Markers - Problems Thread

Boy, is somebody underclaiming:

MCM1_ 0004824_ 4390_ 1-- 732 Valid 6/8/14 04:02:29 6/8/14 08:15:25 3.56 17.5 / 80.5
MCM1_ 0004824_ 4390_ 0-- 732 Valid 6/8/14 04:02:19 6/9/14 11:46:26 4.67 143.4 / 80.5 <Me

I don't know who that wingman is, but they have fairly quick machine. To see them only claiming 4.9 points per hour is pretty strange.
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Re: Mapping Cancer Markers - Problems Thread

There are multiple storage pools for various purposes. Where the storage was low on the front end where the WU results are kept waiting for the wingman to return their result. The large result files were withing what the scientists said could be returned. If you have people with a short queue returning large results quickly and wingmen taking a day or more, that front end storage grows quite rapidly when the results files were at least 8 times larger than they were previously. If everyone was returning results within 12 hours, there wouldn't have been an issue.

I have received resents that were resents that were resents; typically resents only get sent to computers they think will complete them; they have a reputation. I have also seen where I have started working on a resent WU and ultimately three results get turned in. So a previous WU was sent to a machine to process that has a deep queue that is almost as long as the resent deadline.
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Boy, is somebody underclaiming:

MCM1_ 0004824_ 4390_ 1-- 732 Valid 6/8/14 04:02:29 6/8/14 08:15:25 3.56 17.5 / 80.5
MCM1_ 0004824_ 4390_ 0-- 732 Valid 6/8/14 04:02:19 6/9/14 11:46:26 4.67 143.4 / 80.5 <Me

I don't know who that wingman is, but they have fairly quick machine. To see them only claiming 4.9 points per hour is pretty strange.
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I looked at my history and I was completing those sets in 2.5 hours. I was claiming more than 17.5 points though. I have had a few WU's that I got very low points on compared to others and the wingman took about the same amount of time to complete the WU. I just chalked it up to a burp in the point calculation. At the end of the day, probably everyone will see one of those, so it evens out.
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@Sgt.Joe - Though I was not the wingman on your specific example, I sure could have been: I've been getting huge swings on one of my laptop's claims:

MCM1_ 0004749_ 3757_ 0-- 732 Valid 6/5/14 17:56:18 6/6/14 03:01:12 3.52 103.6 / 61.8
MCM1_ 0004749_ 3757_ 1-- 732 Valid 6/5/14 17:56:17 6/9/14 00:09:47 5.63 20.0 / 61.8 <-- Me

MCM1_ 0004721_ 4439_ 2-- 732 Valid 6/8/14 05:50:42 6/8/14 19:11:23 5.11 89.5 / 196.8
MCM1_ 0004721_ 4439_ 1-- - Detached 6/4/14 08:41:39 6/8/14 05:50:32 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
MCM1_ 0004721_ 4439_ 0-- 732 Valid 6/4/14 08:41:38 6/6/14 16:02:27 6.04 304.1 / 196.8 <-- Me

Claiming 20.0 for 5.63 hrs cpu then 304.1 for 6.04 hrs cpu

If it was an even distribution I wouldn't worry, but most of mine on this laptop are closer to the first set than the last. Killing my PPH but don't know what to do about it!

Sorry to all who get stuck with me as a wing man, sad
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Re: Mapping Cancer Markers - Problems Thread

Hi i got also some lower claims during the week-end. It seems to come back to normal.
I do not know what is the reason for that ?
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Re: Mapping Cancer Markers - Problems Thread

Hi i got also some lower claims during the week-end. It seems to come back to normal.
I do not know what is the reason for that ?

I think only the techs can answer your question.
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Those strange runtimes are likely the result of a short experiment we are conducting. As part of the process of reducing run-time variability in the MCM project, we recently sent out sent out batches of work units with modified machine-learning parameters. We expected these changes would slightly shorten work-unit run-times, but did not anticipate so strong an effect.

First, some background: processing a single work unit involves the evaluation of thousands of biomarker signatures (combinations of biomarkers). The machine-learning core of MCM analyzes each signature, but the time required to evaluate each is unpredictable. An evaluation can be stopped early, but the cost of interrupting the learning algorithm is reduced accuracy of the result.

The latest batches of WUs have their parameters modified to activate this learning-limit feature. We hypothesize that slower-to-evaluate signatures also tend to be poor quality (and therefore less interesting) signatures. If our hypothesis is true, we could use the learning-limit to achieve more stable run-times and higher throughput per work unit, with minimal effect on the most important results.

Thank you for your patience while we work to improve the run-time consistency of MCM. And as always, thank you for your interest and the CPU cycles you contribute to the project.

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Thank you for the background information on what is happening Christian. It will be good to have a balanced runtimes
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Thanks for the feedback.
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Cubes;
Thank you for your explanation.
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