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johncmacalister2010@gmail.com
Veteran Cruncher Canada Joined: Nov 16, 2010 Post Count: 799 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
I think that most of the GPU projects are short of work. Certainly POEM is, and even GPUGrid barely manages to keep up, though I have had no problems recently. And there is no point in piling on if a project is short of work, since any work unit you get is simply taking it away from someone else. It might actually decrease the overall efficiency of the project by placing an unnecessary load on their servers. The only exception I know of is Folding@home, which manages to generate tons of work, maybe because of the nature of the problem and lots of researchers, but also because of their infrastructure. With their new Core_17 coming out before long, the AMD cards will get a big boost, especially the higher-end 7000 series. So I think you had better be prepared to shift around and not expect any one project to keep you busy, and to buy new cards with an eye on what is required in a given area. But note that one potential problem with Folding is that it usually does not like to deal with dissimilar cards if you run two or more, at least with the current cores (though Core_17 might be better). However at the moment I am running HCC on an AMD HD 7770, and also Folding on a GTX 560 Ti on the same PC, so it can occasionally work; it is hard to predict. BOINC does not seem to have that problem, and I have had no particular problems getting different cards to work on various BOINC projects. All good information, Jim1348. I am processing HCC and Folding on a number of different AMD cards and dedicate my two GTX650s to GPUGrid long tasks. For April, I am also working on DSFL tasks. POEM is on hold as I have over 9.4M credits on that project. I hope there will be more GPU based tasks to process and feel sure that researchers will review the option once they see the significant reduction in the time needed to complete their research by using GPU power. crunching, crunching, crunching. AMD Ryzen 5 2600 6-core Processor with Windows 11 64 Pro. AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor with Windows 11 64 Pro (part time) [Edit 1 times, last edit by John C MacAlister at Apr 4, 2013 1:29:20 PM] |
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Landorin
Cruncher Germany Joined: Apr 28, 2007 Post Count: 31 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Oh my God, I've been waiting for these news since I joined worldcommunitygrid (and before that, United Devices)! ;) Thank you!!
----------------------------------------And I'm happy to see the GPU implementation made such a major difference! |
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[VENETO] boboviz
Senior Cruncher Joined: Aug 17, 2008 Post Count: 181 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Based on current estimates, there is now approximately 25 days of new work remaining for the Help Conquer Cancer project. Once all new work has been sent out for the project, only resend work units will be available (work units not previously computed correctly or on time). Seippel I hope in a phase II of the project. HCC2..... |
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Former Member
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Oh my God, I've been waiting for these news since I joined worldcommunitygrid (and before that, United Devices)! ;) Thank you!! Why should you be thankful that there is no more work? .... |
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branjo
Master Cruncher Slovakia Joined: Jun 29, 2012 Post Count: 1892 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Maybe because it might mean the researchers are much closer to find a cure / treatment for cancer?
----------------------------------------Cheers Crunching@Home since January 13 2000. Shrubbing@Home since January 5 2006 |
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Coleslaw
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Mar 29, 2007 Post Count: 1343 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
So what is WCG's policy now on handling new projects as far as estimated work load and the amount of time they estimate that we will have work to crunch? With GPU's speeding up research, a new project coming in that has GPU work would need significantly more work then one coming in with just CPU. Is there a bias there? Would it be smarter for a small project to just say CPU and then develop a GPU soon after? Just curious how WCG is pushing the GPU to new projects with this requirement in mind? It will be significantly easier for us to launch GPU capable projects in the future. Our infrastructure is now prepared for it. However, the research application is always provided (selected or developed) by the researchers. We do not rewrite or modify their application logic. The changes we make are soley focused on what is necessary to run in the grid environment and to eliminate any identified potential security issues. Thus, a research project will either run on or not run on GPU's based on the application provided. We do encourage projects to consider it, but there are many factors involved so it will make sense in some cases and not make sense in others. My curiosity was more along the lines of WCG having a requirement of new projects having enough work to do to last a certain number of months. If a new project is willing to do it on GPU but finish in a month, then obviously WCG would turn it down in this scenario. However, the scientists could just leave it on CPU to get WCG to pick it up and then later introduce their GPU app thus finishing early. I was wondering if this logic is applied when promoting new projects. Obviously this is an extreme example, but there are many jaded by the sudden ending of projects recently. I for one am glad they finished early, so please don't think I'm being negative. |
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Jim1348
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 13, 2009 Post Count: 1066 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
My curiosity was more along the lines of WCG having a requirement of new projects having enough work to do to last a certain number of months. If a new project is willing to do it on GPU but finish in a month, then obviously WCG would turn it down in this scenario. However, the scientists could just leave it on CPU to get WCG to pick it up and then later introduce their GPU app thus finishing early. I was wondering if this logic is applied when promoting new projects. Obviously this is an extreme example, but there are many jaded by the sudden ending of projects recently. I for one am glad they finished early, so please don't think I'm being negative. That puts the cart before the horse. The purpose of any of these projects is to do the science. In case that can be done on a GPU more efficiently than a CPU, so much the better. Why handicap the project with a requirement that a CPU be used? In fact, while I would like my GPUs to be used as much as possible, if they sit idle that just means all the work for them has been finished. It is good for the science that it be done fast, and saves on electric bills. On a somewhat related subject, if you are interested in astronomy the Einstein@Home project is interesting, and seems to have a lot of work for the moment. It does well on both Nvidia and AMD, with maybe a slight edge to AMD at the moment. I would prefer biomedical research or finding new materials myself, but Einstein would be a good alternative use for my HD 7770s; finding pulsars is worthwhile in the astronomical world. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Jim1348 at Apr 5, 2013 3:56:44 PM] |
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branjo
Master Cruncher Slovakia Joined: Jun 29, 2012 Post Count: 1892 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
I have bought my GPU (OK, the whole rig ) to shrub WCG 24/7. If there will not be any WCG GPGPU sub-project, I will dedicate it to some other(s) - probably SETI and/or MW (since it is an AMD/ATI, GPUGrid is out for me) with priority 1 and will look forward to shrubbing another WCG GPGPU sub-project (with priority 100) .
----------------------------------------Anyway, all 8 CPU threads will continue with WCG. Cheers Crunching@Home since January 13 2000. Shrubbing@Home since January 5 2006 [Edit 1 times, last edit by branjo at Apr 5, 2013 5:09:56 PM] |
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cehunt
Senior Cruncher CANADA Joined: Oct 10, 2011 Post Count: 172 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
This is welcome news that the end is in sight for the HCC project.
I am glad that the use of GPUs has accelerated the completion of HCC project. I recently brought an Alienware laptop with a Nivida GeForce GTX 660M GPU and I am disappointed that this is an unsupported video card. The disappointing aspect is that this GPU is a very recent video card. I am wondering of other projects like the Clean Energy Project could benefit from using GPUs to accelerate the completion of this project and others. |
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twilyth
Master Cruncher US Joined: Mar 30, 2007 Post Count: 2129 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
I would personally appreciate if we could get a roadmap of what future GPU projects we might be seeing - with the caveat that I would have no right to complain if none of them actually materialized.
----------------------------------------The reason being that I have about $2-3 worth tied up in hardware that I otherwise have no use for. I'm not going to any other projects - WCG is my one and only. So if it looks like there won't be another project like this for at least say 6-12 months, I need to know that so I can sell the hardware before new models are announced and they depreciate too much in value. Of course that assumes that I would actually get my s*** together and sell some things, but let's overlook that little detail for the moment. |
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