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johncmacalister2010@gmail.com
Veteran Cruncher Canada Joined: Nov 16, 2010 Post Count: 799 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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IMO, badges are nice frills and warrant no more developer/maintainer time which might be spent on higher value activities. The points being wherein we'll show contribution to the thing. Apologies to Shakespeare and Hamlet. That is very true but badges give individuals a reason to compete both with themselves and against others. It gives them a 'target' to shoot for, a goal to get, bragging rights, etc, etc. It means NOTHING in the end, but as humans we need some kind of ego massaging every once in a while. Even when we lose it is nice to hear someone say 'nice try, we will get them next time' for example. OK, I hear you. Being a retired accountant, the numbers are fine for me...  Excellent work on the GPU implementation! crunching, crunching, crunching. AMD Ryzen 5 2600 6-core Processor with Windows 11 64 Pro. AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor with Windows 11 64 Pro (part time) |
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mymbtheduke
Cruncher Joined: Aug 26, 2012 Post Count: 25 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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IMO, badges are nice frills and warrant no more developer/maintainer time which might be spent on higher value activities. The points being wherein we'll show contribution to the thing. Apologies to Shakespeare and Hamlet. That is very true but badges give individuals a reason to compete both with themselves and against others. It gives them a 'target' to shoot for, a goal to get, bragging rights, etc, etc. It means NOTHING in the end, but as humans we need some kind of ego massaging every once in a while. Even when we lose it is nice to hear someone say 'nice try, we will get them next time' for example. I agree, badges are a nice target and make it fun. I came over to WCG from Rosetta because the credits are LOW and they are very slow in providing updates on progress. I want to know that my $ for an upgraded computer and $ for power is doing something. The Devs obviously invested the time in creating an OpenCL component as they know it will speed results and their research. GPU crunchers should earn credits AND badges quicker. I would get 8 to 12 HCC units done in a day with my CPU. Now I am doing 18 to 20 in an hour. I like that! I built this computer just for GPU Compute but give me and others what they deserve for having a high-end system and GPU. |
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knreed
Former World Community Grid Tech Joined: Nov 8, 2004 Post Count: 4504 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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There are three stats tracked on our site. Credit, runtime and results. Each measures something different and interesting. We chose to align the badges with runtime since runtime was the closest measure of the three that represented the engagement of a user with World Community Grid. We are interested in having many people participating in World Community Grid and we want to keep the current badge system set up so that a individual user with a average budget system can make good progress on the badges as long as they continue with us over the long run.
----------------------------------------However, it is also a valid perspective to want some form of an acknowledgement for bringing significant resources to World Community Grid (in addition to your rank on the stats pages). This would be an acknowledgement that would be aligned with credit. If we make the current badge system off limits for this acknowledgement, what ideas do people have for how we can give an acknowledgement based on credit? [Edit 2 times, last edit by knreed at Oct 23, 2012 8:42:25 PM] |
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Coleslaw
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Mar 29, 2007 Post Count: 1343 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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However, it is also a valid perspective to want an acknowledgement for bring significant resources to World Community Grid. This would be an acknowledgement that would be aligned with credit. If we make the current badge system off limits for this acknowledgement, what ideas do people have for how we can give an acknowledgement based on credit? Oh knreed...how you must desire punishment. Opening this debate again will no doubt open the CA's traditional response of stop beating a dead horse. Perhaps having a sticky to accumulate all the ideas into one post rather then the multitude of other posts. I still like the idea of the hovering point total that PrimeGrid does with their badges. However, any suggestion that changes the current system also brings the response from many forum members spouting how the time is better served pushing out more important science improvements. As if we needed to know who is here for points, badges, or just care for the science.     |
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Bearcat
Master Cruncher USA Joined: Jan 6, 2007 Post Count: 2803 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Think its time to make badges for 5, 10, 20 and 50 for the powerhouses. Should quell most users.
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
There are three stats tracked on our site. Credit, runtime and results. Each measures something different and interesting. We chose to align the badges with runtime since runtime was the closest measure of the three that represented the engagement of a user with World Community Grid. We are interested in having many people participating in World Community Grid and we want to keep the current badge system set up so that a individual user with a average budget system can make good progress on the badges as long as they continue with us over the long run. However, it is also a valid perspective to want some form of an acknowledgement for bringing significant resources to World Community Grid (in addition to your rank on the stats pages). This would be an acknowledgement that would be aligned with credit. If we make the current badge system off limits for this acknowledgement, what ideas do people have for how we can give an acknowledgement based on credit? You could always place another entry on the left side here, above or below the project badges showing total points generated or overall position based on them. |
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astrolabe.
Senior Cruncher Joined: May 9, 2011 Post Count: 496 Status: Offline |
We are interested in having many people participating in World Community Grid and we want to keep the current badge system set up so that a individual user with a average budget system can make good progress on the badges as long as they continue with us over the long run It's a great comment except that you failed to finish the thought, which is "but only for the small to medium user who is only capable of earning 2 years in a project".There isn't any need to add another type of recognition, only to expand the existing historical and unique system by adding badges for 5, 10 and 25 years per project. Good Lord. We have been asking just for this for over 2 years now, and with many, many users asking for higher badges, you still poll the membership to see what they want. How about certificates? Also asked for and not delivered. I don't get it. You have a recognition system. Everyone understands it. People are asking for its expansion and we don't even get a courtesy response. Yeah, yeah, the Techs are all too busy to provide any additional recognition to the people who are getting the projects done. Read that many times. Whatever your reason is, to me it feels like WCG believes it is more important to recognize a member who takes 6 months to earn a Bronze badge than to recognize the effort of a member who can earn a 5 year badge in 3 months. and you wonder why the low participation rate? |
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Coleslaw
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Mar 29, 2007 Post Count: 1343 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I'm still waiting to hear just exactly how these "certificates" are going to be designed and displayed. I for one could care less if it is a print out for my wall. My household doesn't compete with me or care about WCG like I do. So, the certificates easily and readily available at most other BOINC projects are pointless IMO. I also don't want something that requires a search of a user to view. It needs to be easily seen like the current badge system. Until we get details on it, I can't get excited for it.
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Movieman
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Sep 9, 2006 Post Count: 1042 Status: Offline |
After 647,744 years of crunching, you want to change the rules? You are a bit later to the party loved this comment and so correct, to change anything mid stream is a mistake, now these GPU WU have set our little WCG world on it's ear but it is fair to all. Heck, I went and saw my Beast dualie 2011 got frokm #10 daily down to below number 100 and I just laughed. Even changed it's name from Beast to WLG( Wimpy Little Girl)..sorry ladies, nothing personal..  Point is we need to keep this all in perspective and roll with the punches and HAVE FUN with it.. OT: Thru DC work I have met wonderfull people from all over the world and my friends, life IS all about the people you meet on the journey..Ok, I'll step off my soapbox now.  |
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nanoprobe
Master Cruncher Classified Joined: Aug 29, 2008 Post Count: 2998 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Think its time to make badges for 5, 10, 20 and 50 for the powerhouses. Should quell most users. Probably not IMHO. The enormous amount of GPU work that can be done in just 1 day with a high end card would make for very slow badge movement. I'd like to see the WCG point show as the same value in BOINC credits but that's another discussion.
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