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Dark Angel
Veteran Cruncher Australia Joined: Nov 11, 2005 Post Count: 728 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I am honestly suspecting the OP never attached to the project and considered that installing BOINC would be enough.
----------------------------------------The decidedly poor feedback on suggestions and apparent lack of interest in trying to resolve this is pretty poor form as well. Sorry if people think I'm being harsh, that's just how I see it. ![]() Currently being moderated under false pretences |
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cjslman
Master Cruncher Mexico Joined: Nov 23, 2004 Post Count: 2082 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Sorry to differ, but I don't agree that there was "poor feedback". There were various suggestions, that unfortunately didn't work. It was also unfortunate that the user apparently had a bad install (and there's not much you can against that). Hopefully, the user will try to install the WCG client again. It's always nice to have another cruncher in the community.
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Dark Angel
Veteran Cruncher Australia Joined: Nov 11, 2005 Post Count: 728 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I refer to the poor feedback from the OP. The folk here genuinely tried to help but it's very difficult when the person on the other end doesn't keep up their end of the discussion.
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KWSN - A Shrubbery
Master Cruncher Joined: Jan 8, 2006 Post Count: 1585 Status: Offline |
It's hard to say exactly what was going on in this case, there was very little diagnostic information provided by the OP with which to work. As there are many many successful installations of WCG and no problems that appear similar to this one, I'll have to agree with Dark Angel. It takes two sides to make troubleshooting work.
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Is there a less manual or a more automated way to resolve crunching issues? Perhaps some kind of machine-to-machine communication? That might have saved the day, but even that requires some human effort to setup, operate and 'fill-in-the-blanks' for the machines (as machines can never fully translate the subtleties of meanings involved in human communication) -- a kind of effort which I sure didn't see from the concerned cruncher.
However, the said cruncher seems like a newbie* and newbies have a license to be-, and to appear to be-, not wanting to dance the Tango of troubleshooting. But the world has many problems to solve so newbies' license has to have a short period of expiration. If ambodach is listening, I tell you what: I'm sure WCG would be with me when I say that WCG would be willing to extend your license! But you have to do your part! You have to hold WCG's hand as much as you want WCG to hold your hand through the crunching issue you may be having. More to the point: please respond directly and point-for-point to the posts of CA SekeRob as the issue gets clarified and with it proposed solutions developed. If at the end of the day, your issue somehow turned out to be that one-of-a-kind issue that happens to be unresolvable, all of us would have at least known exactly what the nature of the issue is -- a.k.a "known issues". ; ------- *There is no shame in being a newbie. Like we all were once a child, everyone was once a newbie. ; |
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Dark Angel
Veteran Cruncher Australia Joined: Nov 11, 2005 Post Count: 728 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Nothing wrong with being a newbie, everyone was one at some time.
----------------------------------------N00bs on the other hand ... this should explain the difference. http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20060823 ![]() Currently being moderated under false pretences |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Interesting that you used '00' rather than 'oo'. It's very clear to me now what you mean! But, I ask for your indulgence to give newbies (including James Bond without an i7
) a more-than-the-usual caring hand. Understandably, the biggest obstacle happens when just starting out. I guess that ambodach is also new to computers, apart from being new to WCG, if not new to crunching altogether. In any case, we may have to also listen to what is not being said, and ambodach sure didn't tell us much, did he/she?; |
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Dark Angel
Veteran Cruncher Australia Joined: Nov 11, 2005 Post Count: 728 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Anytime someone asks for help because they don't understand something/are new to something etc I am more than happy to walk people through anything as best I can and do so regularly. When that someone instead carries on about how "computer literate" they are and blames all their problems on a platform that hundreds of thousands of people have little or no trouble getting running ... and then appears to be quite uncooperative with people's efforts to help them ... yeah ... I believe the term "flamebait" may be close.
----------------------------------------Anyway, I tire of such trifles. Anyone got a GPU beta for me to run? ![]() Currently being moderated under false pretences |
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cjslman
Master Cruncher Mexico Joined: Nov 23, 2004 Post Count: 2082 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Dark Angel... Sorry I misunderstood your comment about the "poor feedback"
---------------------------------------- . and yes, I agree with you... the OP needed to be more cooperative about the feedback. CJSL |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
There are too many people here who are quick to judge. OK it's an open forum, but I'm accused of failing to give feedback and be non-cooperative; I'm not sure how much more feedback I could give in that I supplied a listing of the Message Log and I then reported again that any instruction I'd been given didn't have any impact. I waite several days to see if there was any change and then again reported so, before getting exasperated with it.
Yes I am a newbie to this but am sufficiently computer literate to be able to follow instructions and report on them. We all at some point have downloaded a bit of software, have found it didn't work and have lost patience with it. I did have two projects showing initially and that was seen as a problem to be got rid of, and we did so. The fact that I was unable to uninstall the software does now indicate that a faulty download. Rob |
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