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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
No probs here .... whenever i have other software up and running it goes down to 10% and when i'm not on my pc it runs at 80%.
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andreic
Advanced Cruncher Canada Joined: Nov 19, 2004 Post Count: 100 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
I am running on a Dell 366 laptop and delivered my first bucket-o-data last weekend. It took almost 20 days to crunch about 3000 points. The fan ran constantly but nothing melted (duh).
The problem is that the fan wasn't really designed to do that kind of duty and is getting a bit rattley now. Is there a way to post my 18% complete payload or formally drop this machine out of my herd so that someone else can take over the dataset that I am carrying? |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
If I understand things correctly, after 3 weeks of wall clock time, the server will assume that it needs to hand off the Work Unit to somebody else. So you can just uninstall the WCG Agent with clear conscience.
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andreic
Advanced Cruncher Canada Joined: Nov 19, 2004 Post Count: 100 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Thanks, I'll recruit one of my desktop boxes to take the position.
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
I guess I've got the worst combination among you guys, an AMD powered Notebook build by an unknown Taiwanese manufacturer. With an AMD Athlon4 1.3GHz (Palomino core, 0.18um process) running UD agent 24/7 for two years, I've yet to encounter any problem. Not anything exceptionally fast, but definitely something exceptionally hot. If this can survive, any computer with proper cooling system in working order should not be any problem.
The reason for your notebook running faster than normal is because the processor do not run at full power unless it is required. For example, my computer will automatically downshift to 5x100=500MHz under light load. UD agent/ the grid agent uses the unused processing power, which requires your processor to run at full speed, instead of cruising at low revs. This WILL create more heat and thus the problem of your fan noise. Personally, I wouldn't run the agent when I'm on battery (a few times in a year, I suppose), but I don't see a problem running it 24/7 on AC power as long as your cooling system is in good working order. |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Just in case this gives someone the wrong idea, let me say that the WCG Agent stops running when a laptop is running on battery. This is a standard Power Management function. So a laptop will only run a WCG project while hooked up to AC power.
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Now thats the best answer I've read so far to this really non existant problem. I am getting the impression that the world is populated with melting laptops all over the place. I've never heard of that with anyone I've ever known. I always thought that computers were meant to be used. I suppose that there is a point to internal components, other than the cpu, being effected by higher temperatures, nevertheless, I expect my laptop to perform whenever I turn it on. With all the improvements in technology going on these days I assume that I will be replacing my hard drive any moment with something that works twice as fast, has three times the storage capacity, is 4 to 5 times more reliable, and will cost half as much as what I'm using now. I don't need a fictional excuse like "overheating damage" to do it either. My God people!! Don't you see that computers are more reliable than ever? If the temperature the cpu runs at when processing 100% of the time shortened that processors life don't you think manufacurers would change the factory thermostat setting? .............
Been there done....... You can change the snooze mode time by clicking the task bar icon for the "Device". Next click on preferences (the Check sign). In the Upper left hand corner is a box with two options. One for running ONLY as a screen saver and one to change time Snooze Time. 119 min. is the max delay setting for it. BE SURE TO CLICK APPLY BUTTON. The "Device" runs at a LOW priority. Or; It will back off the instant any other your programs ask the CPU to use the systems resources. I recommend leaving the Screen saver Check Box blank and setting the screen save to off (desktop/properties/screen saver) to see if your system can (easily) game , surf, etc. Crunch on! P.s. If you wana be COOL; Clean out the Dust-Bunnies from the CPU heat sync! |
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bowringi
Cruncher Joined: Dec 17, 2004 Post Count: 4 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
I'm taking this as a personal challenge - can I melt the laptop. I have recently acquired a new laptop, and was about to retire the old, but still very healthy and capable model. Instead it has now been running WGC flat out for four days at 100% CPU, lid down, in a none too well ventilated location (on top of another CPU). No fires yet, and 3 results submitted. It's warm, but I certainly don't need oven gloves to handle it! I'm willing to take wagers, I don't think it's going to pop!
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
It's currently summer in Sydney and my Pentium 3 mini-tower system has been overheating when the ambient temperature gets into the mid 30s. The processor halts and everything just hangs - no mouse pointer, no keyboard input, etc. Under these conditions it can be re-booted and will run OK as long as the grid agent is not running. On cooler days it will run the grid agent without problem. So far, there appears to be no long-term damage to the machine. The processor must have a built-in over-temperature safety cut-off feature.
My other device is a Pentium 4 ThinkPad which continues to run the grid agent 24 hours a day regardless of the ambient temperature. The air being pumped out by the cooling fan is quite hot, but the machine just keeps on crunching away. |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
I for one have to say, that I do suggest that the grid agent should have a section called CPU monitor or something with a slider telling it how much cpu idle clock cycles to use at one time, and also show the cpu's core temperature, for example, 1 you can change it to farenheight or celcius (pardon my spelling), 2 a bar showing the temperature and a green and red zone so you know if you've pushed it too hard, and 3, have the grid agent temporarily pause if it reaches the red zone/ critical zone, however still be able to override it; basically what I'm saying is to add more functionality and control to the agent so that we can rest knowing what is actually going on...
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