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Former Member
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Hmm, my CPU is only at 50%... Guess HT has something to do with that... Heck, I donno!
(Gonna run it overnight and pray house dont burn down while Im asleep  ) |
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This program runs the cpu at 100% all the time. This will melt many a cpu esp a laptop like mine. I've communicated with techies who, like me, think this is a great Idea, but warn against using this program until they install a slider or some sort of throttle to limit the cpu usage.... However it's your machine. Caveat emptor. Good luck all! Techically, your computer should be able to run at 100% overnight without overheating. If it does, then your computer has issues. |
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You're kidding right? EVERY distributed computing client runs the box at 100%. The process priority though is set so low that you won't even notice it's there. When you run an application that needs CPU cycles, the OS will throttle the WCGC so your apps are happy. distributed.net, seti@home, folding@home, genome@home, einstein@home, BOINC. They all do the exact same thing. No, they don't. Folding@home has a slider under 'options' where you can set the % of cpu utilization. I've done lots of folding, my cpu is watercooled so no problem there but this prog is giving my northbridge a run for it's money. Running 58C and that's a bit too toasty. Was unimpressed with the introductory language of this program too. Many typos. The program itself isn't bad. Needs some tweaking. 99% agreed. But utilizing your stuff like this may somehow reveal problems you otherwise wouldn't be aware of (flaw in h/w cooling design etc.). Does not look as if WCG's the one to blame for that... Besides of that, didn't had ANY problems w/ installing and uninstalling on 2 XP and 1 W2K machines. ZENguy, ever tried it w/ yoga? |
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Well, it might be that a computer is able to run at full throttle 24/7, BUT, when you use a laptop, the fan will be running ALL THE TIME, which is really really really annoying. I have a brand new laptop with Centrino technology, and it is usually very quiet. I use the laptop for developing programs and the computer is usually nice and quiet. Now, with this agent installed, the fan is running all the time, and so I must uninstall it again. I can't stand the ever-going-on fan noise.
This might not be a problem with workstations. |
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as post by bovineone, heres what's posted on FAQ
- - - When running the software, my CPU usage goes up to 99%. Will this crash my computer? No. Crashes can occur during normal processing when CPU usage goes up this high due to the way Windows allows programs to run. Each program in Windows operates at a particular priority level, either "Low", "Normal" or "High." Most programs operate at Normal priority. If you open many Normal Priority programs at a time and the usage goes to 99%, Windows becomes unable to properly devote time between them and the system crashes. The software runs at a Low priority. If regular usage only uses 10% of your system's resources before you start the software, then you have 90% free. This 90% is what will be used when the software starts. However, if you start another program that requires an additional 10% of system resources for Windows, it will automatically be taken away from the software and given to the new program. This means that though usage goes to 99%, as each new program requires system resources, they are relinquished by the software, allowing Windows to devote time to other programs and to prevent the system from crashing. |
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My computer gets very noisy too when I run the program, usually theres not even a sound but after running this grid thingy it's NOISY!! That humming sound is so loud.
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I had been planning on installing this to my laptop as well as my desktop computers, is the risk of overheating really such that i should reconsider installing it on my laptop? (P4 2.8)
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I had been planning on installing this to my laptop as well as my desktop computers, is the risk of overheating really such that i should reconsider installing it on my laptop? (P4 2.8) Well, since it is not possible to reduce the system load to 50% e.g. I would not recommend it. A notebook is not designed for running at 100% 7/24. It should not be a problem for the CPU but the Harddisk or other devices will probably get damaged if its temperature is always above 45°C. Install a tool that monitors the temperature of your CPU + HD! |
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As many have already pointed out, for me the problem has nothing to do with the process priority. I tried installing this on my laptop. The first thing I noticed was the whir of the cooling fan kicking up as soon as the program launched and the heat pouring out of the cooling vent. I then confirmed the the CPU was running at full capacity. As many have already said, there is no way that it can be good for a laptop to run at full cpu utilization continuously. Cooling the cpu on a modern laptop is difficult enough as it is. Sadly, I uninstalled the app. I will have to wait for a version that has a throttle.
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I echo the sentiments of others here. Laptops are not a good environment for a program which, *by design* is supposed to max out your processor as much as possible (without interfering with other apps). That's the whole point of distributed computing... take advantage of unused processor cycles.
Laptops, by design, are meant for occasional use, barring a few select workstation-class models. All that fancy battery and power-management control software and firmware is set up to lower power and cooling needs when the processor is idle... this software, by design, does that opposite. If you didn't think that through before installing on a laptop, well, that's not the grid's fault. Some sort of processor throttle would help somewhat, but notebooks are really not designed for this sort of thing. Some desktop systems with shoddy design and inadequate cooling setups are going to have issues we well. The question you should ask yourself *before* installing software designed to run your computer at 100% as much as possible, is whether or not your hardware is up to the task. If you don't know enough to answer that question, I say, use at your own risk. Our renderfarm, however, which is used to render 3D animation sequences that can take days or weeks to run, is designed from the ground up to run flat out 24/7. :-D We frequently have slow time between projects and between renders, however, which means we should be racking up some serious points soon! w00t! |
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