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Former Member
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Well considering your CPU is technically using 100% CPU all the time thanks to windows it really shouldn't make too much of a difference. Also if your cpu can't run all the time at 100% then the manufactuer wouldn't have sold it... or atleast I hope not. Right now I even took the fan off one of my old celerons to see if the program would make it overheat and the tempature difference was very minimal...
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Former Member
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Well considering your CPU is technically using 100% CPU all the time thanks to windows it really shouldn't make too much of a difference. Also if your cpu can't run all the time at 100% then the manufactuer wouldn't have sold it... or atleast I hope not. Right now I even took the fan off one of my old celerons to see if the program would make it overheat and the tempature difference was very minimal... Ignore IronDragon's post. Clearly has no idea what s/he is talking about. Windows does not use 100% of the CPU 100% of the time. One look at the task manager, showing the "System idle process" thread should tell you that. This thread simply tracks how much CPU is NOT being used. Sitting at idle, (and obviously NOT running the grid software) your computer should not be using more than 1-3% of the processor, except for occasional spikes as timed events take place (hard drive optimization, virus scans, etc.). |
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Former Member
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Incredible people would worry so much when they are trying to help.
You will NOT have over heating problem. The CPU is thermally protected. What kind of help are you? You uninstall the program the minute you heard someone say "overheating" without bother to find out the facts. And then blame IBM doing this to you. If you are sincerely wanting to help why don't you learn more about how your PC works, ask some intelligent questions from the sponsor (IBM). Also you can use the dumbest way of reasoning too. Will this program survive if it fries your CPU?! I have been running this program for 3 days No OVERHEATING! If you want to help why complain so much before you even have the facts straight? |
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I installed this on a Dell Inspiron XPS laptop. p4 3.4 - 1gig ram - 100gig hd and I am not having any issues. The laptop is a desktop replacement so it will handle it just fine. It is running a bit warmer and the fans are on low, howerver it does not bother me and the machine will throttle down if it gets too warm.
The system has HT technology and I don't know if that is helping. The program is only using 50% processing power which is interesting. I have no issues with running any other apps. May take a second or two longer to open, but I usually am not on the computer all the time. I do agree that there should be some sort of throttle. Since this is a laptop, I don't want the fans running all the time. It doesn't bother me noise wise, but it is wear and tear. |
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Former Member
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Perhaps they could give people the option to take out the pretty 3D animations.....that could make it not use as much of your CPU...right?
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Former Member
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Perhaps they could give people the option to take out the pretty 3D animations.....that could make it not use as much of your CPU...right? Or u could just choose not to have that panel open... |
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Incredible people would worry so much when they are trying to help. You will NOT have over heating problem. The CPU is thermally protected. What kind of help are you? You uninstall the program the minute you heard someone say "overheating" without bother to find out the facts. And then blame IBM doing this to you. If you are sincerely wanting to help why don't you learn more about how your PC works, ask some intelligent questions from the sponsor (IBM). Also you can use the dumbest way of reasoning too. Will this program survive if it fries your CPU?! I have been running this program for 3 days No OVERHEATING! If you want to help why complain so much before you even have the facts straight? While this is true for any PC that is worth it's two cents, this is not the case for most laptops. They will overheat, and while you will probably not damage the processor itself, there are several other tightly packed components inside a laptop that could be damaged by the continual heat. Motherboards these days are designed to not only throttle back when overheating [for Intel anyways], but to completely shut down when a certain temperature is reached [both Intel and AMD do this]. This only applies to processor heat tho, most components aren't built to withstand the same temperature limits as a CPU. For PCs, as long as you have adequate cooling, and normally stock cooling is adequate enough [depends on the vendor I suppose, if you bought a pre-built], you should have no problems with over heating. If you think your processor is not adequatly cooled, you need to replace the heatsink/fan or have someone who knows what they are doing replace it.... even if you don't plan on using WCG's program. And to the person that asked if removing the 3d pictures would lower CPU usage, no it wouldn't... the whole point of the program is to pin your CPU to 100% by using all current unused cycles to crunch the numbers. |
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Former Member
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Personally, I think it is much todo about nothing. I am running a 1.7Ghz Pent-M laptop. I've been letting it run the grid client for two days nearly non-stop. It is NOT NOT NOT overheating and is not even noticeably warmer to the touch than any other day.
I also use this computer ALL day long to do my job and have not missed a single beat with the client running. Yes it runs the entire time I am working. So perhaps, instead of being rude and insulting, we might try being a little more mature and constructive in our criticisms. Naturally, your laptop mileage MAY varry... |
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The idea behind the program is to use your unused processor-usage.
So it's logical you always have 100% cpu-usage. It was built to use it this way, so in my opinion it would be useless to lower down the cpu-usage. But you can always pause the program at regular time to cool down  |
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Eric_Ruatha
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Whilst it is true running your CPU at 100% will cause more heat dissipation issues, I'm yet to see any manufacturer state that running their PC or notebook at maximum capacity will cause a problem or void warranty. Of course, I'm not saying there aren't notebooks out there that won't overheat or fail over an extended period of time (damn, reality interferes with my life yet again!), despite all the overheat protection built in to them, but it points to a manufacturing and design fault of the notebook manufacturer, not the software you are running. I run intensive multimedia processing packages and grid software on a variety of systems (workstations and notebooks), and while temps rise noticeably, we've never had a failure after years of this treatment. The equipment comes from a number of brand name manufacturers, in the "mid" price range. yep, fans blow, cases get warm, but no hard disk failures, melted CPUs etc. after years of 24/7 operation. Hardware should be able to cope with being used to it's maximum capacity.
BUUT...check out some of the software CPU throttle tools, or check your notebook utilities. Many have a CPU throttle feature buried in there somewhere, often tied to temperature monitoring as well. happy computing  |
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