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Former Member
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I continue to believe that separate small to large form-factor devices that are designed and made specifically for crunching -- would best serve the grid-computing industry's primary aim of supporting the computing needs of researchers. In the short-term though, the small form-factor devices (smartphones, tablets, etc) may be used for the purpose. I just can't see a long-term benefit for grid-computing riding on devices that were built for another purpose; any increases in the capability of those NMFC (not-made-for-crunching) devices will not proportionally go towards crunching. Applications for those NMFC devices will make sure of that.
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cjslman
Master Cruncher Mexico Joined: Nov 23, 2004 Post Count: 2082 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Yes, I agree... having my toaster or blender crunch WUs does seem out of place. As for the mobile segment... it's going forward at blinding speed. Phones, tablets, e-readers... all are pushing the limits of CPU/GPU power. These advances in technology also are pushing the OS area: Android, Windows Phone, iOS, etc. I was thinking that maybe in 5 years technology would permit comfortable processing of WUs on mobile devices... but I think I'm wrong... it's a lot sooner... hhhmm... like now!!! Power supplies & batteries are also going forward (look at what Motorola announced batterywise this week with their new mobiles: capacity = 3300 mAh... 21 hours of talk time). It would probably be a good idea for WCG (and other crunching projects) to start looking in the mobile sector... it will be ready very, very soon.
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Former Member
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Hello cislman
----------------------------------------Reference: cislman [Sep 8, 2012 1:59:58 AM] post Exactly, and that is why I mentioned "In the short-term though, the small form-factor devices (smartphones, tablets, etc) may be used for the purpose". I would want to see WCG WUs on the said small form-factor devices. But over the long-term, BOINC will get squeezed out of those smartphones by applications that were designed and intended for purposes which a smartphone was designed for, and I can't see how BOINC can be one of those applications. In the future, one scenario is that the purposes for which a smartphone or a tablet is designed for may converge to a single device. Another scenario is that the smartphone will not converge with a tablet. In either case, I still can't see BOINC as a part of the applications-set for a smartphone, a tablet, or a converged smartphone-tablet. The reason has to do with the purpose of a device. Nobody sells a smartphone or a tablet with an advertising line like "The XYZ smartphone, it runs BOINC!", or "This ZYX device also runs BOINC!" One has to understand the nature of grid-computing to make sense of why that advert line won't sell any smartphone or tablet regardless of how much or how well the device is able to crunch BOINC-hosted WUs-- and my money goes there. However, as I stated, those smartphones and tablets may be used in the short-term for crunching purposes. ; ; edit1_2012.09.09Su.1304.utc ; -- typos ; [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Sep 9, 2012 1:04:24 PM] |
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branjo
Master Cruncher Slovakia Joined: Jun 29, 2012 Post Count: 1892 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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It is here :-)
----------------------------------------"BoincTasks Mobile should be compatible with iOS, Android and all HTML 5 compatible browsers. BoincTasks Mobile is tested on: The new iPad." http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/boinc_tasks/mobile.html BOINC New Announcement http://boinc.berkeley.edu Enjoy and NI!  Crunching@Home since January 13 2000. Shrubbing@Home since January 5 2006  |
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Coleslaw
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Mar 29, 2007 Post Count: 1343 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Too bad BOINCTasks doesn't actually crunch the work units. So, until then we keep using nativeBOINC.
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cjslman
Master Cruncher Mexico Joined: Nov 23, 2004 Post Count: 2082 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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andzgrid... some comments... I don't disagree with you.. you're probably right, but...
----------------------------------------- There are now more mobile devices than computing devices (and it's growing faster everyday). - I agree that smartphone devices weren't made to run BOINC and crunch WUs, but... - That doesn't mean that there won't be people that will try to do exactly that: I have seen people on these forums go out and buy computers for the sole purpose of crunching WUs... even people renting CPU power on Internet to crunch WUs. I'm pretty sure, that if they can, they will crunch WUs on their smartphone (I must admit, I would probably be one of them  ).In the future, one scenario is that the purposes for which a smartphone or a tablet is designed for may converge to a single device. uh... that device you describe is already here: enter the "Phablet" or "Phonlet". I think it's described as the combination of a smartphone and tablet device between 5 - 7 in. There are already a few out there (I personally find these devices difficult to understand... too big to be practical as a smartphone and too big to handle, but they are pretty  ).http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phablet Now, it would REALLY be interesting to hear from the WCG scientists/techs to find out what their opinions/thoughts are about this topic... any takers? CJSL Crunching for a better world... |
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Former Member
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Sounds like a must-have app:
< Apps for an emergency > http://www.zdnet.com/apps-for-an-emergency-7000003445/ ; |
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Coleslaw
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Mar 29, 2007 Post Count: 1343 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I would find apps more along the lines of QCN to be more beneficial. We already have news feeds, local emergency alerts, etc... for being informed. However, that would require hardware manufacturers to open up details on the accelerometers in the tablets and phones for QCN to work. And even then, the device would need to be sitting idle on a table to be accurate when the event happens.
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Coleslaw
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OProject@home is now supported by nativeBOINC http://oproject.goldbach.pl/index.php
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cjslman
Master Cruncher Mexico Joined: Nov 23, 2004 Post Count: 2082 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Interesting short article about mobile processors in 5-10 years
---------------------------------------- Intel hints at 48-core mobile processors, to materialize within 5 to 10 years More of the same: Electronista Computerworld CJSL Crunching for a better world... ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by cjslman at Nov 1, 2012 12:31:05 AM] |
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