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Re: Rice results - Has there been any actual use?

Hi folks,

I was curious as to the actual applied results of this project. It has been a year since the numbers were in.

What are the real world results at this point? Have there been any strains developed with the technique?

I would like to think at least some of the results would be easy enough to identify that the verification of actually using the results to track a strain has happened.

Has any actual usage occured with rice strains at this point?
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Steve,

I doubt all of that has happened. Was looking at food-crops and effects of rising CO2 and increased UV exposure due ozone layer damage, a reversing trend not expected until end of this decade, and increasing ozone at ground level and the imbalances of fertilization that increased CO2 causes. It's not looking good at all... more crop quantitative yield and less nutritional value [already identified in wheat], the object of this project rapidly annihilated. Soon we'd all be needing to eat fast-food chain quantities with happy, but bad fats and will start to look like couch potato elephants. The GM lords are saying praise on this since they'll be only ones able to quickly develop the seed material, which of course is sterile, so they can keep selling their stuff again and again at ever higher prices, putting the farmers and the world population at their mercy... and it's already fact, they're doing this!

Not a happy camper with this outlook upon humanity.
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Re: Rice results - Has there been any actual use?

I just read back and saw some of the updates on the forums which look reasonably good news (and thankfully lhhung is posting updates! :D) However the website could do with a little summary of what is on here so people don't need to read all the way back. Shouldn't take that long for a few lines in fact you could almost copy and paste what was said by lhhung in this post.

https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/...ad,29075_offset,20#311557

Even a little bit of news is far better than something looking like it has gone dead.
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Re: Rice results - Has there been any actual use?

Hello All,

The Nutritious Rice for the World Scientists have posted a project status update on their website.

Tedi
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Re: Rice results - Has there been any actual use?

Hello All,

The Nutritious Rice for the World Scientists have posted a project status update on their website.

Tedi

Any news on a gpu project?
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Re: Rice results - Has there been any actual use?

Exciting update. Take a look at the project status update cristi.

A paper has been published in BMC Notes regarding the GPU acceleration of the clustering process of the analysis http://www.biomedcentral.com/1756-0500/4/97

"As a real-world test, we calculated the matrices for 6 different ensembles from NRW. The GPU method was 260 times faster that the fastest existing CPU based method and over 500 times faster than the method that had been previously used."

Unfortunately, http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1756-0500-4-97.pdf

the CPU used was a "A single core Sempron 3000+ system" so the comparison is sort of silly, since the Sempron is based on nearly decade old design, and the Sempron 140 is $36, 2.7GHZ, compared to ~2 GHz for the 3000+.
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Re: Rice results - Has there been any actual use?

The comparison was done using a Sempron based machine to compare with a single core and to take thread management out of the equation. It also happens to be roughly the speed of the actual cpus on the cluster that we had at the time, which unfortunately still make up most of our cluster.

The GPU used is also a few years old - a 4770 from a couple of generations back. It was the equipment we had at the time. Everything scales with the GPU power - the
GPU on a Sempron only marginally slower than the same GPU on a Phenom. The current single GPU ATI cards are 2-3 times faster.

I would have preferred to use TFLOPs as a measure but the number of instructions varies due to the way the iterative algorithm evaluates the eigenvalues. It could be done but would have taken some work to count the instructions.

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Re: Rice results - Has there been any actual use?

So, is there an e.t.a. on a gpu client?
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Re: Rice results - Has there been any actual use?

The point about the equipment being what you had is understandable, however, the point of evaluating GPU vs CPU should be a real world test in my opinion. In the real world, I think it makes more sense to compare how an average GPU would compete with an average CPU.

http://boincstats.com/stats/host_cpu_stats.php?pr=wcg&st=0

According to here, the majority of CPUs, or at least the ones that contribute the most to the project, are multicore.

Another thing to consider is that it seems Nvidia right now has the upper hand in GPU computing.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/201...aphics-card-for-folding/3

http://www.gpugrid.net/index.php Here, they recommend Nvidia.
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Re: Rice results - Has there been any actual use?

Not true, there are a lot of GPU projects on BOINC (milkyway, collatz, dnetc...) where ATI is much faster than Nvidia.
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