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Dataman
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Sorry about not updating for so long. The lab has received some funding and I am now working full-time on NRW rather than in my spare time. I am very happy to be back in Seattle. We are about to receive some new CPU/GPU servers to analyze the data and there should be something soon. We are also applying for funds to really upgrade our cluster in anticipation of the 1000 plant proteome (1KP) project. To make things clear, the GPUs are being used to analyze the data internally. We do have a GPU-aware protein folding client as well. If World Community Grid is ready to go with GPUs we are ready to utilize GPUs in the 1KP project. If not, we can proceed using CPUs with fewer candidate structures per sequence. Thanks for you patience. I will be updating this thread much more regularly as we get results. Hong Thank you for the update, Hong. Indeed it has been a long time. Look forward to the new project. While I hope it can be a GPU project, I would be amazed if WCG is ready for one. There is no shortage of crunchers ready to bring their GPU's here. Or we can do the project at "snail cruncher" CPU speed.  Thanks again and hope to hear from you more frequently.    [Edit 1 times, last edit by Dataman at Jan 30, 2011 5:21:56 PM] |
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nasher
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looking forward to more work... it would be nice if we could have GPU by then but i am guessing its not going to be ready by then.
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sk..
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Possible GPU NRW crunchers would come from 4 main sets:
Those only crunching at WCG that either have a GPU or would be willing to get one to crunch here during the projects lifetime. Those that crunch for other existing GPU projects. Those that crunched for past GPU projects. New WCG crunchers. So the WCG/GPUGrid overlap does not represent a full range of potential NRW GPU crunchers. GPUGrid is also a very GPU specific project (only mid range to high end NVidia cards are used there). The list below only shows active participants that crunch both at WCG and other existing GPU project: SETI & WCG crunchers, 9941 Einstein & WCG crunchers, 8409 MW & WCG crunchers, 5414 Prime Grid & WCG crunchers, 3767 Collatz & WCG crunchers, 2831 Ibercivis & WCG crunchers, 1291 If a GPU based NRW project ran for at least a year and only 1% of existing WCG crunchers that do not crunch on a GPU anywhere (around 98% of WCG crunchers) added one useful GPU to crunch with during the lifespan of the project that would be around 5000 GPUs in itself. Many ATI users don't crunch any Boinc GPU project because most are Math's based. A massive window of opportunity. Many others have crunched with cards at Folding@Home. So what I'm saying is that GPU participants could well rise to over 10,000 within a year. lhhung, using a GPU should not inherently exclude the project from being available for the CPU as well. |
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Former Member
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We can run the exact same client on both GPU/CPU but ideally thats something that we might want to change. It makes more sense to leverage the capabilities of GPUs to do some pre-analysis as well as generating structures.
The ATI cards are just as capable in terms of double precision math - it's just that the early acceptance of CUDA means that ATI owners were left out. As you may know, we don't need double precision so we can gain an additional 2-5x speedup and we have tested the folding software on ATI GPUs. OpenCL is supported by both NVIDIA and ATI. I agree wholehearted with your sentiments and if anything, you may be understating the amount of useful GPUs out there. Even stock and budget GPUs for movie playing are becoming quite powerful. Hong |
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Dataman
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Thank you for the information, Hong. It appears the biggest obstacle is ... WCG. I have 12 NVidia cards and would be pleased to participate in beta testing if/when a GPU version is ready.
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sk..
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Hi Hong, glad to hear you are so positive about GPU usage.
----------------------------------------OpenCL is probably better supported by NVidia than ATI; I’m getting reports of less than adequate support for ATI’s APP SDK2.3, but it depends on the apps you need to write. The more simplistic the app the less bugs you are likely to see. My guess is Apr for the 2.4 SDK if you do run into many issues. OpenCL tends to be about 10% slower than cuda, but at least if you go OpenCL you are universal; CPU, ATI and NVidia. I know there are many experienced GPU crunchers such as Dataman that will help out when the time comes. Good luck  [Edit 1 times, last edit by skgiven at Jan 31, 2011 9:18:52 PM] |
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it will be nice to make GPUs working. If u need some1 to beta testing - my 570s are ready to take part there :-)
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Former Member
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Also, keep in mind that a lot of people on BOINC are goal oriented, thus the popularity of "collecting badges". By offering a GPU app, you will attract people just looking to post a personal goal on WCG with their GPU cards, and end up migrating CPUs over to hit other goals as well once they have tried the project. I personally run 4 GTX260's cards that change GPU projects ever couple months. I have other cards which I could bring onto BOINC, but currently none of my favorite projects have a GPU app, therefore I am unwilling to pay the power bill to support projects which I am rather indifferent towards. If any WCG project had a GPU app I would most likely bring in these cards that have never been on BOINC before, or have only been used for short times during challenges or system testing.
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cristipurdel
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Any rough estimates for a beta test?
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Tapiot
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Possible GPU NRW crunchers would come from 4 main sets: Those only crunching at WCG that either have a GPU or would be willing to get one to crunch here during the projects lifetime. Those that crunch for other existing GPU projects. Those that crunched for past GPU projects. New WCG crunchers. So the WCG/GPUGrid overlap does not represent a full range of potential NRW GPU crunchers. GPUGrid is also a very GPU specific project (only mid range to high end NVidia cards are used there). The list below only shows active participants that crunch both at WCG and other existing GPU project: SETI & WCG crunchers, 9941 Einstein & WCG crunchers, 8409 MW & WCG crunchers, 5414 Prime Grid & WCG crunchers, 3767 Collatz & WCG crunchers, 2831 Ibercivis & WCG crunchers, 1291 If a GPU based NRW project ran for at least a year and only 1% of existing WCG crunchers that do not crunch on a GPU anywhere (around 98% of WCG crunchers) added one useful GPU to crunch with during the lifespan of the project that would be around 5000 GPUs in itself. Many ATI users don't crunch any Boinc GPU project because most are Math's based. A massive window of opportunity. Many others have crunched with cards at Folding@Home. So what I'm saying is that GPU participants could well rise to over 10,000 within a year. lhhung, using a GPU should not inherently exclude the project from being available for the CPU as well. Hi. If I know right, Ibercivis dont have GPU app. CPU only. |
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