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damir1978
Senior Cruncher Joined: Apr 16, 2007 Post Count: 397 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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If you get one task or one million, you participated, so you should be recognised. You could even argue that you should get a badge for selecting to run a project, even if you did not get any tasks; itâs not your fault the server decided not to give you a task, or enough tasks to get a badge. How would you feel if you volunteered to do some charity work, and someone said, âNot you, you not tall enoughâ? Another way to look at it is that those people that stopped crunching other tasks, in order to get a badge prevented you from getting the badge, by sucking up all the WUâs. The WCG advertises itself as being inclusive, but does not go too far out of its way to include people. 100% correct argument you have there skgiven. And in my book, once you have a good argument and nobody has a better argument against yours then everything should be decided by the last standing argument. So, When do we get the white Badges????? |
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GIBA
Ace Cruncher Joined: Apr 25, 2005 Post Count: 5374 Status: Offline |
If you get one task or one million, you participated, so you should be recognised. You could even argue that you should get a badge for selecting to run a project, even if you did not get any tasks; itâÂÂs not your fault the server decided not to give you a task, or enough tasks to get a badge. How would you feel if you volunteered to do some charity work, and someone said, âÂÂNot you, you not tall enoughâÂÂ? Another way to look at it is that those people that stopped crunching other tasks, in order to get a badge prevented you from getting the badge, by sucking up all the WUâÂÂs. The WCG advertises itself as being inclusive, but does not go too far out of its way to include people. 100% correct argument you have there skgiven. And in my book, once you have a good argument and nobody has a better argument against yours then everything should be decided by the last standing argument. So, When do we get the white Badges????? Let me bring more information about somethings that was lost in the WCG past. It is mainly applicable to people that have many years of WCG, before 2007 at least, but could be applicable to more recent crunchers too. At the begining times of WCG, when we just crunched using the UD agent, many users (including me), many times spent many days, sometimes more than a week, just to finish a simple ONE Work Unit of HPF for example. Why ? maybe probably due the slow machines with limited resoruces, and bad grid computing agent available (call UD agent of bad, is an huge eulogy compared with the BOINC agent), combined with others reasons. But it was mere facts from ancient times, and many crunchers lost many WU's finished in error status after crunch for days, without get anything. DAYS of work done but lost, due mainly issues concerned with the UD agent (someone for sure will remembered something about it !). So, just more one argument among many, to support this thread ! Hope it could help a little bit more !  
Cheers ! GIB@
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sk..
Master Cruncher http://s17.rimg.info/ccb5d62bd3e856cc0d1df9b0ee2f7f6a.gif Joined: Mar 22, 2007 Post Count: 2324 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I remember the failed tasks never mind the crashing Betas! I turned Betas off because of the failure rates, about 3 years ago.
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Former Member
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We could call this badge the "free hand outs" badge or better yet, the Obama badge.
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Former Member
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Think of this, for every mega-badge collector we see in the forums, there are thousands of people that can't donate even 14 days, but together are doing a lot of work, and this special recognition can lead them to do more. So why do you feel you need to make excuses for someone who can't donate 14 days? I believe that it is more common that they won't take the time or make the effort. You are making, what I believe is, an invalid assumption that crunchers join WCG to earn badges.If a person is not willing/able to donate 14 days for a bronze badge, then why try to motivate them with a clear badge for .36 hours? There is a team member who has not returned a WU in over 5 years but has done 2 WU for 6 hours. Pardon my indignation, but give me a break. A Badge? I have a hard time even saying thanks. A new C2D computer running 9 hours a day takes less than 3 weeks to get a bronze and that is not a monumental task for someone who only has access to a single computer. You can't give WCG 3 weeks? It has taken 3 weeks just to validate this last batch of DDDT2 WU. Fourteen days is just not that big an investment to ask for in the future of the humanity. Signing off on this thread. Agree with you. |
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damir1978
Senior Cruncher Joined: Apr 16, 2007 Post Count: 397 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Think of this, for every mega-badge collector we see in the forums, there are thousands of people that can't donate even 14 days, but together are doing a lot of work, and this special recognition can lead them to do more. So why do you feel you need to make excuses for someone who can't donate 14 days? I believe that it is more common that they won't take the time or make the effort. You are making, what I believe is, an invalid assumption that crunchers join WCG to earn badges.If a person is not willing/able to donate 14 days for a bronze badge, then why try to motivate them with a clear badge for .36 hours? There is a team member who has not returned a WU in over 5 years but has done 2 WU for 6 hours. Pardon my indignation, but give me a break. A Badge? I have a hard time even saying thanks. A new C2D computer running 9 hours a day takes less than 3 weeks to get a bronze and that is not a monumental task for someone who only has access to a single computer. You can't give WCG 3 weeks? It has taken 3 weeks just to validate this last batch of DDDT2 WU. Fourteen days is just not that big an investment to ask for in the future of the humanity. Signing off on this thread. Agree with you. I agree that we can have a hard-line and a soft-line about this issue.... Can you tell me again what is the benefit of taking the hard-line road on rewarding the volunteers with this virtual (cost nothing at all) badges ?????? |
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Former Member
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Think of this, for every mega-badge collector we see in the forums, there are thousands of people that can't donate even 14 days, but together are doing a lot of work, and this special recognition can lead them to do more. So why do you feel you need to make excuses for someone who can't donate 14 days? I believe that it is more common that they won't take the time or make the effort. You are making, what I believe is, an invalid assumption that crunchers join WCG to earn badges.If a person is not willing/able to donate 14 days for a bronze badge, then why try to motivate them with a clear badge for .36 hours? There is a team member who has not returned a WU in over 5 years but has done 2 WU for 6 hours. Pardon my indignation, but give me a break. A Badge? I have a hard time even saying thanks. A new C2D computer running 9 hours a day takes less than 3 weeks to get a bronze and that is not a monumental task for someone who only has access to a single computer. You can't give WCG 3 weeks? It has taken 3 weeks just to validate this last batch of DDDT2 WU. Fourteen days is just not that big an investment to ask for in the future of the humanity. Signing off on this thread. Agree with you. I agree that we can have a hard-line and a soft-line about this issue.... Can you tell me again what is the benefit of taking the hard-line road on rewarding the volunteers with this virtual (cost nothing at all) badges ?????? Badges show some kind of commitment to WCG (as astrolab said). If people want freebies without commitment there are points. [Edit 2 times, last edit by Former Member at Apr 7, 2010 2:51:53 AM] |
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sk..
Master Cruncher http://s17.rimg.info/ccb5d62bd3e856cc0d1df9b0ee2f7f6a.gif Joined: Mar 22, 2007 Post Count: 2324 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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If you sign up to run tasks and give CPU time, that is commitment.
So if you dont get any tasks, because the server did not send any, or enough for a badge, how is that not commitment? I only got 2 African Climate tasks, and I was crunching before it started. I was committed to getting tasks, but they just did not arrive at my systems, which did have enough resources to run them. Perhaps by commitment you mean hogging? |
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Former Member
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Hello KWSN - A Shrubbery
If you will do a WCG Forum search on astrolab posts, you will come to the conclusion that the condescending tone of many of his posts is intentional. Take heart from the fact that it is not up to astrolab for your ideas to have a chance to see the light of day. Good day ; |
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Former Member
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If people want freebies without commitment there are points. and the ability to advertise your accomplishment using the Facebook app. That should be enough reward for a single WU. |
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