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Senior Cruncher Canada Joined: May 21, 2007 Post Count: 391 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
But how about a constant badge colors? You wouldn't take a gold from an olympian 2yrs from now that they didn't have the highest honors.
----------------------------------------Whatever happened, happened. So lets take sapphire as the highest. Beside the badge would be the number of times you've reached it. As for 1WU = 1 badge, I would say display the project logo without any colors; I would call it a "ribbon of recognition". |
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Hypernova
Master Cruncher Audaces Fortuna Juvat ! Vaud - Switzerland Joined: Dec 16, 2008 Post Count: 1908 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Seriously, while I understand your point, it invites other questions. What about those who are 1 day short of sapphire? Do you allow that 1 day? Or a fixed percentage? Because those crunchers will complain too. How about crunching 1 week on purpose and knowing you will get the Bronze at some point in time? Nah, then better a certificate system with total crunched time on WCG, or use of that sig I noticed somewhere on the boards with detailed info per project. rembertw, my proposal stands only for the first bronze badge. Those who just missed sapphire have an emerald badge. But those who miss the bronze have nothing at all. My proposal was just to correct that. But I fully agree that a certificate is the preferred solution to confirm the exact contribution, except that it does not allow for the missing badge. I agree with Sek that the runtimes are well designed, except that we should add some more badges for 5, 10, 25, 50 years. |
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Coleslaw
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Mar 29, 2007 Post Count: 1343 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Seriously, while I understand your point, it invites other questions. What about those who are 1 day short of sapphire? Do you allow that 1 day? Or a fixed percentage? Because those crunchers will complain too. How about crunching 1 week on purpose and knowing you will get the Bronze at some point in time? Nah, then better a certificate system with total crunched time on WCG, or use of that sig I noticed somewhere on the boards with detailed info per project. rembertw, my proposal stands only for the first bronze badge. Those who just missed sapphire have an emerald badge. But those who miss the bronze have nothing at all. My proposal was just to correct that. But I fully agree that a certificate is the preferred solution to confirm the exact contribution, except that it does not allow for the missing badge. I agree with Sek that the runtimes are well designed, except that we should add some more badges for 5, 10, 25, 50 years. This is why I suggested moving your cursor over the badge to get total run time in that project. This benefits everyone. Those who have the highest badge still gets recognition for crunching several years beyond the current badge levels and those who have say "the clear badge" could display how close they were. Currently, all Sapphire badges look alike so they just brag on how many badges they were capable of earning due to joining date and such. If someone currently has 100 years in a project, that is pretty impressive and would get a lot more praise then a shiny blue badge. |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
When a project is finished, the crunchers who have crunched that project but missed the bronze badge by less than one week runtime, then they get the bronze badge. It doesn't matter what you call it, it is still acknowledging a member for doing less than WCG has asked EVERY other member to do. It's a badge for not reaching the standard or achieving the goal; for doing less than asked. A recognition of doing the dead minimum, the least.Why 7 days short? Why not 10 or 5 or 3 or 12? Or why not a badge if you earn a single WU? I have an idea: Why not give out a badge only when a cruncher donates 14 days? That's what WCG is doing. Lets have more badges for doing more not more badges for doing less. |
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rembertw
Senior Cruncher Belgium Joined: Nov 21, 2005 Post Count: 275 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Actually, there is already a certificate system in place for everyone. One that actually is a "signup" badge and that can explain why there are no higher badges for that user. Check out these "signup badges" or "badges for participation (if you like)":
Joined: Apr 4, 2010 Joined: Jul 9, 2008 Joined: Mar 29, 2007 Joined: Dec 16, 2008 Joined: May 21, 2007 Joined: Jul 24, 2005 There you have your lowest badge. Why duplicate that effort? Further on, I agree (on this ) completely with astrolab: Lets have more badges for doing more not more badges for doing less. |
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Hypernova
Master Cruncher Audaces Fortuna Juvat ! Vaud - Switzerland Joined: Dec 16, 2008 Post Count: 1908 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
This is why I suggested moving your cursor over the badge to get total run time in that project. This benefits everyone. Those who have the highest badge still gets recognition for crunching several years beyond the current badge levels and those who have say "the clear badge" could display how close they were. Coleslaw I would agree with your proposal. After the first WU returned you have a clear badge (an outlined transparent square). It will then switch to solid colors as you improve your runtime. By getting the effective runtime displayed when the cursor is on the badge then it is the perfect solution. I am afraid it may be difficult to implement. Once the stats are run (twice a day) all individual badges must be updated. This means each badge must have variable data attached to it. But let's be honest, if the techs have to choose were to put their effort, I prefer that they implement new badges for higher runtimes as I mentioned in my last post. |
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rembertw
Senior Cruncher Belgium Joined: Nov 21, 2005 Post Count: 275 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Alternatively, if you really want some form of aknowledgement for crunching 13 days 23 hours 59 minutes (or for crunching 1 task) for a certain project, then the answer might be found in giving the option of making the personal stats public. In the end, that's exactly what will be accomplished with finetuning the badges to give out more details. The "participation badge" solution is just (a lot) more programming work.
Who knows, maybe the "certificate"-idea that's been bouncing around will do something to that end. |
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HTH
Cruncher Joined: Apr 10, 2006 Post Count: 27 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
We are talking about people that cannot even commit long enough to finish 14 meagre days of crunching. WOW I have been here for four years but I still don't have 14 days worth of Beta WUs returned. I only got _one_ (1) WU for AfricanClimate@home and I don't even have one week worth of Help Defeat Cancer returned WUs even though I tried to do my best back then. And why am I not getting any work from Discovering Dengue Drugs - Together - Phase 2? I just bought GTX 275 crunching monster graphics card, but it is not worth in WCG at all... Not all of us have the ability to use work computers to crunch for distributed computing. |
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rembertw
Senior Cruncher Belgium Joined: Nov 21, 2005 Post Count: 275 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
HTH, true.
That makes the badges worth a lot more for you than for others. Would you really want to take the worth away of what you already have accomplished? When you reach bronze for Beta and DDDT2, then you will know that it's a great achievement for you. The satisfaction should be so much greater. At least, that is my opinion. Also, the fact that you are here with WCG since Apr. 10, 2006 and still crunching is to me much more important than having the ability of gathering 1 sapphire in 1 calenderday. You show true dedication. That is really something to be proud of. And, regardless of the badges/certificates discussion, nobody can ever take that start date away from you! |
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Master Cruncher http://s17.rimg.info/ccb5d62bd3e856cc0d1df9b0ee2f7f6a.gif Joined: Mar 22, 2007 Post Count: 2324 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
[OT]HTH, attach your GTX275 to GPUGrid. You can still use your CPUs here, at the same time. They do good worth-while research (you know, real science; not counting pi, looking for prime numbers, or searching for ET)! It should pick up about 28000 Boinc points a day there. [/OT]
Regarding start dates. It might or might not be all that important - Someone could signed up and did nothing for 2years! Not even a start date then is it? More like a might have started date, but didn't bother. What about people who started, ran one task, then came back 4years later. What's that? A stalled start, long break, and re-start Put that onto a certificate - Stalled on the start line 2004! Sat in the garage for 4 years, Re-started in 2008 but only ran 2 tasks, Back to the garage, Really started 2009, well sort of; only uses one core, and crunched an intermittant project! |
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