Index  | Recent Threads  | Unanswered Threads  | Who's Active  | Guidelines  | Search
 

Quick Go »
No member browsing this thread
Thread Status: Active
Total posts in this thread: 95
Posts: 95   Pages: 10   [ Previous Page | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | Next Page ]
[ Jump to Last Post ]
Post new Thread
Author
Previous Thread This topic has been viewed 9204 times and has 94 replies Next Thread
gb009761
Master Cruncher
Scotland
Joined: Apr 6, 2005
Post Count: 2977
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: BETA for type C in DDD2

Uplinger, does this mean that as no Beta WU's will be validated, if the third WU hasn't started, it won't get Server Aborted?
----------------------------------------

[Feb 6, 2010 4:58:25 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Sekerob
Ace Cruncher
Joined: Jul 24, 2005
Post Count: 20043
Status: Offline
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: BETA for type C in DDD2

Am confused, now have 4 concurrently of C, pdb, sda x 2 and a sqa. Peak Ram is between 16 and 46mb after first checkpoint for all, but the VM is big... reserved 510-530mb each. Soft page faulting is very small 16k after 1.7 hours and delta is zero. (Process Explorer on W7-64)

Rather curious, the fan gears up to max right on the checkpoints, lasts few seconds, then returns to normal.
----------------------------------------
WCG Global & Research > Make Proposal Help: Start Here!
Please help to make the Forums an enjoyable experience for All!
[Feb 6, 2010 5:09:54 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Sekerob
Ace Cruncher
Joined: Jul 24, 2005
Post Count: 20043
Status: Offline
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: BETA for type C in DDD2

Uplinger, does this mean that as no Beta WU's will be validated, if the third WU hasn't started, it won't get Server Aborted?

Now why ask a question to which you've got the answer... how would the system know the first 2 are in valid quorum? The rest I leave to your imagination how to improve on the extended thoughts sprouting from that cool
----------------------------------------
WCG Global & Research > Make Proposal Help: Start Here!
Please help to make the Forums an enjoyable experience for All!
[Feb 6, 2010 5:29:42 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Crystal Pellet
Veteran Cruncher
Joined: May 21, 2008
Post Count: 1316
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: BETA for type C in DDD2

...now have 4 concurrently of C, pdb, sda x 2 and a sqa.

Not to correct a CA, Sek, but the b of pdb and the a of sda and sqa are a part of the heximal number of the tasks.
So the C-types are pb, sd and sq out of the range (pc, pd, pl, pr, pq, sd, sr, sq).
----------------------------------------

[Feb 6, 2010 5:38:41 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Sekerob
Ace Cruncher
Joined: Jul 24, 2005
Post Count: 20043
Status: Offline
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: BETA for type C in DDD2

Now this is showing in the client dynamic controls

<net_stats>
<bwup>29373.619110</bwup>
<bwdown>496472.586649</bwdown>
</net_stats>

On a quad, calculating on 90 minutes average per job, an approximate 1.2Gb in download volume. Could hurt a few crunchers going for gold. Is it an option for the techs to package multiple jobs in 1 tasks as was done for DDDT-1 or would that not gain any WU downsizing?
----------------------------------------
WCG Global & Research > Make Proposal Help: Start Here!
Please help to make the Forums an enjoyable experience for All!
[Feb 6, 2010 5:42:40 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Sekerob
Ace Cruncher
Joined: Jul 24, 2005
Post Count: 20043
Status: Offline
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: BETA for type C in DDD2

...now have 4 concurrently of C, pdb, sda x 2 and a sqa.

Not to correct a CA, Sek, but the b of pdb and the a of sda and sqa are a part of the heximal number of the tasks.
So the C-types are pb, sd and sq out of the range (pc, pd, pl, pr, pq, sd, sr, sq).
good for you CP... in a pictures:


----------------------------------------
WCG Global & Research > Make Proposal Help: Start Here!
Please help to make the Forums an enjoyable experience for All!
[Feb 6, 2010 5:51:42 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
gb009761
Master Cruncher
Scotland
Joined: Apr 6, 2005
Post Count: 2977
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: BETA for type C in DDD2

Uplinger, does this mean that as no Beta WU's will be validated, if the third WU hasn't started, it won't get Server Aborted?

Now why ask a question to which you've got the answer... how would the system know the first 2 are in valid quorum? The rest I leave to your imagination how to improve on the extended thoughts sprouting from that cool


Sek, I was asking, as by not having the Validator on for Beta WU's, the crunchers would be 'crunching' for crunching's sake (okay - ideal for those Beta badge hunters, although other than that, taking resources away from doing what we're really here for - crunching for science and to verify that this project is a-okay for launch).

It just strikes me as odd that WCG is allowing all these third WU's to be crunched when they're not really needed... Particularly so, when you consider that all these WU's will be fed back into the hopper again when the project goes live.
----------------------------------------

[Feb 6, 2010 5:54:45 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
GIBA
Ace Cruncher
Joined: Apr 25, 2005
Post Count: 5374
Status: Offline
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: BETA for type C in DDD2

By far it is the best Beta test that I got in WCG in years...

A lot of WU's blow out each minute, very quickly to run and until now estable and wityhout any significant problem to be mentioned (despite of be a memory eager in some moments as mentioned a lot in the posts).

Change my Intel quad to work in best performance mode (chnged from best appeareance mode, over W Vista 32 Ultimate), with improvement of virtual memory (uncheck Windows management and set a specific high value for virtual memory).

It appear be solved the page files problem which I saw sometimes bring errors due lack of memory, mainly when another application in this machine ask for memory too...

Until now this Beta appear run very well. cool coffee
----------------------------------------
Cheers ! GIB@ peace coffee
Join BRASIL - BRAZIL@GRID team and be very happy !
http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=DF99KT5DN1

[Feb 6, 2010 6:00:48 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
rembertw
Senior Cruncher
Belgium
Joined: Nov 21, 2005
Post Count: 275
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: BETA for type C in DDD2

Got a pd, pc and pq. Two validated fine with replication 3 and quorum 3. The pd is Pending Validation, waiting for the 3rd to come in.

The run looks fine by me, all running on dual core XP machines on my side.
[Feb 6, 2010 6:08:58 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Sekerob
Ace Cruncher
Joined: Jul 24, 2005
Post Count: 20043
Status: Offline
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: BETA for type C in DDD2

Uplinger, does this mean that as no Beta WU's will be validated, if the third WU hasn't started, it won't get Server Aborted?

Now why ask a question to which you've got the answer... how would the system know the first 2 are in valid quorum? The rest I leave to your imagination how to improve on the extended thoughts sprouting from that cool


Sek, I was asking, as by not having the Validator on for Beta WU's, the crunchers would be 'crunching' for crunching's sake (okay - ideal for those Beta badge hunters, although other than that, taking resources away from doing what we're really here for - crunching for science and to verify that this project is a-okay for launch).

It just strikes me as odd that WCG is allowing all these third WU's to be crunched when they're not really needed... Particularly so, when you consider that all these WU's will be fed back into the hopper again when the project goes live.

The decision was made and most certainly it will put the validation rules to the test to it's fullest... and I imagine that if this is a fully succesfull cycle test, the results are transportable into the master database. There's so much the techs do that they don't post out in public, for would they spend all their time on sharing, they'd barely have time left to do what they're best at.
----------------------------------------
WCG Global & Research > Make Proposal Help: Start Here!
Please help to make the Forums an enjoyable experience for All!
----------------------------------------
[Edit 1 times, last edit by Sekerob at Feb 6, 2010 6:23:57 PM]
[Feb 6, 2010 6:22:50 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Posts: 95   Pages: 10   [ Previous Page | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | Next Page ]
[ Jump to Last Post ]
Post new Thread