Forgive me for the spelling--what can i say your dealing with a fool CO2 and EPA’s Voodoo Science---- http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/27721

Sek it is still inside the envelope of recorded Sea Ice extent

How does that make it extraordinary?

The people of Holland have recovered their land they live on from beneath the Sea. Their entire situation is artificial. You cannot claim they are making contingency plans against potential floods, it is simply the ongoing maintenance, and securing of their artificial environment.

The levee's were not maintained in New Orleans with far more disastrous consequences than the direct effects of the Hurricane itself which continues to be misrepresented and used as the poster child of what will befall us all on account of our CO2 emissions.

The melting of the North Polar Sea Ice does not raise the height of the Sea Level around the globe as it has already displaced it's own weight of water which becomes water when it melts. Net effect zero.

Dave

"Sek it is still inside the envelope of recorded Sea Ice extent"

David, EXTENT you know, that part which signifies the outer rim, not the real ice... the concept of breaking up the ice cube and than spread the slivers out and then look from 100 miles distance with reverse binoculars and claim that ice can be seen everywhere.

How many standards deviation is that envelope of yours... 1, 2, 3, 4, 5?



Enjoy the day David, for tomorrow there will have to be work done by humanity to preserve what we want our children to inherit...

edit: ... and that is Man Made Or Not!

You're a funny man David, switching venue as always when you can't get your right... and again the date spiels, which keep flying in your face... poor folk waiting on September 13 inferring with that date game of latest max as were that a magical sign... still 2D, 2010 also proofed the year of record declines.

... so lets look at Antarctic Ice... the "Your chart with stretched scale for effect", just for laughs, displays that that extra ice was not really holding together. Any idea why? Lacking thickness maybe and as was measured, a declining salinity in the upper layers and as we all know, run off melt-water and lower salinity lets water freeze easier. Does that make sense?

As for whatever you perceive to be recovery, the Antarctic is a continent quite a bit bigger than the USofA. When we then take the trends for sea ice there, both area and extent, we find that the annual number is pretty much unchanged compared to the Arctic direction. Here the numbers for the past 10 full years for extent and area 12 months ending August, from the same source as "your chart", in millions km square:

YR EXT - AREA
'00 12,25 8,82
'01 12,12 8,88
'02 11,50 8,22
'03 12,22 9,00
'04 12,24 8,89
'05 12,11 8,68
'06 11,78 8,49
'07 11,93 8,63
'08 12,71 9,39
'09 12,38 8,98
'10 12,26 9,03

which the scientists had predicted for decades to be lacking global warming... more vapor, more snow, more slipping and sliding and overall Antarctic thickness still declining.

For your backfill on information, here's a link to sea ice differentials North and South polar: http://nsidc.org/seaice/characteristics/difference.html with very special attention to the table at bottom doing summary comparison:

Global Sea ice is in decline, global snow cover is in decline, and snow-off days are on the rise, glaciers with some exceptions are on decline in surface and in mass. The Globe in short is warming, inexplicably, to you at least. Most consider that it's those mostly living in the UHI's doing being co-responsible... the degree you chose, by your own words opined as "negligible". Are you sure?

Sek no I didn't say that UHI was negligible

I said that the UHI effect would have negligible effect in my modern going forward record which is still in it's trial stage

I never said that the Urban Heat Island effect hasn't had any effect on the historical record to which the modern record is compared


I said we have probably reached the maximum extent (that word again) of our Urban Sprawl given our current economic outlook.



Record declines Sek only occur when you have record maximums to loose. You really should have a look where that red line has been this year

Sek have a look at http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/table_area.php?ui_set=0&ui_sort=2

and see which week is a position 2 for week with greatest NH Snow Cover

Was it this year?


Dave