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Sekerob
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The bets have been closed and the quadratic fitted September prediction was confirmed. The X on right hand is the most probable out... coined the Arctic September Sea Ice Dead Spiral...
---------------------------------------- No, don't think I'll be skating on that 'recovered' ice... even the world champion figure skating will have to make very tight loops. Picture of the 2010 court, where ice is rotten and thin: 
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Sekerob
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 3 years on and still there's more The only way it can be claimed to be inexorably disappearing is if there was less Just the increase since 2007, even at this late stage of the Summer melt, is still bigger than Afghanistan Have you tried hiding Afghanistan down the back of the Settee? I'm slowly exporting it as dust on my boots but it might take a while  Dave Why was that shift long before September 13, to not compare to 2009 or 2008, no the fallback to the extreme of the extreme minima... which had several conditions come together. The answer is transparently obvious... an inconvenient truth.  The link to make your personal (cherry) picks: September 12, 2008 and 2009, the day after the 2010 minimum http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/prin...=09&sd=12&sy=2010 http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/prin...=09&sd=12&sy=2010 In hospital terms, the patient was improving and then had a relapse. The Ice is Rotten, per the log of the Captain on the Amundsen. PS, weeds like more CO2, wheat's don't... that lost 8% nutritional value due to Anthropogenic Atmospheric input. Today was reported that 925,000,000 humans live in hunger... 2010 Anno Domini.
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nanoprobe
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Nice picture. I could post one from 1987 that shows 3 subs surfacing at the north pole in the broken up ice but what's the point.
----------------------------------------IMHO the declining ice is just the normal ebb and flow of our planet. Only man could be so arrogant as the think he can influence the weather on a planetary scale.  I find it interesting that they only use data collective from after 1980. Many of the senior "experts" who are claiming global warming now are the same ones that warned us in the 1970s that we were headed for another ice age. Anything to keep that grant money flowing.  Try and stay cool y'all. I'm done. 
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The Green $windel - The Environmental Agenda - Part 1 of 6 -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-V5k9Bux8s
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Sekerob
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marysduby, whilst you're out on Youtube visit the "Climate Crock of the Week" collection, which addresses most of the climate swindle.
----------------------------------------nanoprobe, yes, I was going through that 7,336 posts long thread today in search of those spotless sun image posts with accompanying texts and the insight he [David Autumns] was correlating to cooling (which was really a series of strong La Nina's) and saw multiple posts with your 'sub' pictures. Nice snapshots too for home. These subs, whilst navigating the Arctic collected and measured allot of the sea ice which data is processed by PIPS and was also made available to the PIOMAS Sea Ice volume modellers, to compute what's left. Al Gore managed to get that data released. The military were not all to keen to tell where they'd been, so it took some 'lobbying' for the scientists. As it is at the end of August, there was a shortage of 9,500 cubic kilometers from what there should be floating around there... at 1 meter thick that would have covered 9,500,000 km square, but if applied to "Normal" SIA for August 31, it boils down to multiple meters missing... multi year layered ice... it's barely present anymore... it's crud, highly disburst and brittle. Were any of these older sub pictures you posted showing crud? 
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Sekerob
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An interesting picture titled Ice Canyon Sunrise... it ends in a moulin where water plunges 3000 feet down.
---------------------------------------- Saw another one of a huge lake on top of the Greenland ice sheet, traversed with a motored zodiac. Could not make out the other side in that picture and will post when retrieved. One such lake of billions of gallons emptied itself in 2008 breaking through 3200 feet of landice... nothing to worry about... all normal some assert with lullabymongering authority. http://www.sciencefriday.com/program/archives/200804183
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David Autumns
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Sek the inconvenient truth
----------------------------------------http://www.thegwpf.org/gwpf-reports/1531-the-climategate-inquries.html and http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm Night all Dave  |
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Sekerob
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All depends on who defines what "recovery" is when the patient clearly shows to be on a saline drip, and the nurse forgot to open the gauge. As it stands, the period March 31, 2010 (this years max) to September 10, 2010 (this years min) had a record average daily ice loss of 58003 km square daily... not even matched by 2007 which stood at 52,057 km^2... and 2008 even beat that at 52,904... yes most definitely a "Recovery" of most inconvenient truthful nature.
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Montford again? http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives...tford-delusion/#more-4431 Montford certainly spins a tale of suspense, conflict, and lively action, intertwining conspiracy and covert skullduggery, politics and big money, into a narrative worthy of the best spy thrillers. I’m not qualified to compare Montford’s writing skill to that of such a widely-read author as, say, Michael Crichton, but I do know they share this in common: they’re both skilled fiction writers. The only corruption of science in the “hockey stick” is in the minds of McIntyre and Montford. |
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retsof
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Peer review ensures that PUBLISHED works are scientifically sound and valid, not just the rantings of a guy with a PhD (in Mathematics nonetheless). There are people with PhDs in biology who believe in creationism. What's your point? I am a scientist and I believe that our God created the Universe. The fact that PhDs in biology believe this indicates there IS evidence to support that. Do you have any idea what one has to do to get a PhD? Exactly what are your credentials? Stephen Hawking asked, "Who created God?"
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