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petehardy
Senior Cruncher USA Joined: May 4, 2007 Post Count: 318 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Hi TOMinAZ,
----------------------------------------Factors that are reducing the availabilty of FAAH work units: 1. Because of changes made(zero redundancy) the number WUs sent out has been lowered, so that any "teething troubles" can be identified without wasting to much work. 2. Contributors who dedicate their computers to FAAH will get work first. Whether you computer is faster or slower shouldn't make any difference for "normal" WUs, but the so called "emergency" WUs, have a much shorter deadline(25% of original I think), so they go to the "reliable" machines. "Reliable" - means short turnround and very low error count, this is described somewhere else in the forum. Hope this helps. Pete  "Patience is a virtue", I can't wait to learn it! |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
Since I'm not all that savvy with all the techno-jargon on here.... I think this means that we're getting new work units for FAAH, some might get some, others might not, depending on how fast their machines can run it. (Faster machines get WUs, slower ones like mine get none). The WUs might be re-runs of errors, verifications, etc. The new BOINC thingy might have some bugs. Can I assume I've assumed correctly, or have I presumed wrong? (Say that 10 times fast, lol) I got a WU, my machine says it'll take about 30 hours to run. That's OK. One finished a few nights ago, I was hoping it would get another, but if not, I was willing to select Rice again. Got another FAAH, and so my little laptop is happily chugging along with it. TOMinAZ, speed is NOT the determining factor. Long as you keep returning work before deadlines, all but HPF2 it's 12 days, WCG will send you anything they have and you want. Keep the "Give me other work if my preferred project(s)...." selected in your My Projects profile. The mix is just set that if you do multi-project crunching you get in relative terms little less for FAAH & DDDT and a little more for the other 3 projects of WCG. I'm having a number of "Inconclusive"s this moment for FAAH. Logs look good, so I expect them to validate when the verification copy comes back and if not, we'll call 911 cheers
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Dataman
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I'm having a number of "Inconclusive"s this moment for FAAH. Logs look good, so I expect them to validate when the verification copy comes back and if not, we'll call 911 cheers I too am getting inconclusives (3) on FAAH. Logs look OK. I'm watching the new copies that were sent out to see what happens.   |
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TOMinAZ
Cruncher United States Joined: Feb 11, 2007 Post Count: 40 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Not a problem. I remember seeing something about cleaning up stuff, having certain machines do the cleanup and all. I had a few days where only Rice WUs came through, then FAAH came through.
Again, I've got a WU, it's crunching away. Happy to help in my own little way. |
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Dataman
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I'm having a number of "Inconclusive"s this moment for FAAH. Logs look good, so I expect them to validate when the verification copy comes back and if not, we'll call 911 cheers I too am getting inconclusives (3) on FAAH. Logs look OK. I'm watching the new copies that were sent out to see what happens. No new ones and two of the three have validated so I guess it's me.  |
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Sekerob
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All inconclusives have validated here. Just the random post crunch verification mechanism, so no reason to worry. If 'inconclusive's turn into 'invalid' and half the credit of the valid repair job, it's when faces should be made, at your computer
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Eric-Montreal
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I also got 2 inconclusive FAAH results today (I found none before), not sure what that means.
Looking in the previous units I found the same two 'common' errors that are also present in the inconclusive units : The first is : autodock4: *** WARNING! Non-integral total charge (-6.01 e) on ligand! *** autodock4: *** WARNING! Non-integral total charge (-2.5 e) on ligand! *** etc... The second is always the same : autogrid4: WARNING: I just prevented an attempt to take the arccosine of -1, a value less than -1. It appears on both the inconclusive and some valid results. Does it mean invalid data is being fed to Autodock ? My machine is having a problem ? Now that there is no more initial redundancy, I'm a bit concerned a dumb computer glitch could lead to missing important results. Example of result log (faah4348_000181_MC_xMut_md06400_11) : <core_client_version>5.10.45</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> Failed to get VersionInfo size: 1812 INFO:[16:03:51] Start AutoGrid... autogrid4: WARNING: I just prevented an attempt to take the arccosine of -1, a value less than -1. autogrid4: WARNING: I just prevented an attempt to take the arccosine of -1, a value less than -1. (...) |
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Former Member
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Hello Eric-Montreal,
http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread?thread=6105 For single-redundancy projects, Inconclusive means that the validator has selected a result to undergo validation with a second copy of the work unit. Wait until it is returned to see if your result is Valid or Invalid. Lawrence |
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Sekerob
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I also got 2 inconclusive FAAH results today (I found none before), not sure what that means. Looking in the previous units I found the same two 'common' errors that are also present in the inconclusive units : The first is : autodock4: *** WARNING! Non-integral total charge (-6.01 e) on ligand! *** autodock4: *** WARNING! Non-integral total charge (-2.5 e) on ligand! *** etc... The second is always the same : autogrid4: WARNING: I just prevented an attempt to take the arccosine of -1, a value less than -1. It appears on both the inconclusive and some valid results. Does it mean invalid data is being fed to Autodock ? My machine is having a problem ? Now that there is no more initial redundancy, I'm a bit concerned a dumb computer glitch could lead to missing important results. Example of result log (faah4348_000181_MC_xMut_md06400_11) : <core_client_version>5.10.45</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> Failed to get VersionInfo size: 1812 INFO:[16:03:51] Start AutoGrid... autogrid4: WARNING: I just prevented an attempt to take the arccosine of -1, a value less than -1. autogrid4: WARNING: I just prevented an attempt to take the arccosine of -1, a value less than -1. (...) All these messages are benign and merely highlight that the docking routine execution evolved outside it's bandwidth restriction. In other words, anything outside is not of interest. Best wait to see what the re-validation brings to light. If valid, great, if you have a very rare 'invalid', it could be that the first Higgs Boson bounced of a neutrino that is shot from CERN to the LNGS under the Gran Sasso which then there caused a Seke-robson to ricochet to your computer that by sheer misfortune happened to be in it's path on the way to the black hole in the center of the Milky Way. It happens inexplicably. 
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In other words, anything outside is not of interest. Best wait to see what the re-validation brings to light. If valid, great, if you have a very rare 'invalid', it could be that the first Higgs Boson bounced of a neutrino that is shot from CERN to the LNGS under the Gran Sasso which then there caused a Seke-robson to ricochet to your computer that by sheer misfortune happened to be in it's path on the way to the black hole in the center of the Milky Way. It happens inexplicably. Dr. Rob has spoken...  |
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