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I suppose I am a stats junkie in a way - I am very proud of the work I do to help find a cure so others can live - I was unable to help my Mum survive a few years ago, or my Dad survive just before Christmas, so want to do all I can now.

smile Adywebb, I can fully understand your motivation, your efforts are very commendable

smile Hi wgbjr
Your comments are always welcome, feel free to post here anytime

It would appear that the aforementioned member has a couple of HTT machines dedicated to the WCG and do little else but process work units
So as you suggested, this could have something to do with him showing an overall increase

smile Adywebb, the aforementioned member has two identical machines
Let's hope he will test your theory and enlighten us, regarding his findings for the benefit of everyone
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smile Adywebb, the aforementioned member has two identical machines
Let's hope he will test your theory and enlighten us, regarding his findings for the benefit of everyone

Graham, as luck would have it, I have in front of me 2 identical mobos with identical Pentium 4 3.0 Ghz HTT Chips - for the sake of science, I will purchase identical cases/PSUs/RAM etc and give it a go - one running Boinc with 1 CPU utilisation and the other with 2.

I really need to get out more..... worried

laughing Ady
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smile Adywebb, the aforementioned member has two identical machines
Let's hope he will test your theory and enlighten us, regarding his findings for the benefit of everyone

Graham, as luck would have it, I have in front of me 2 identical mobos with identical Pentium 4 3.0 Ghz HTT Chips - for the sake of science, I will purchase identical cases/PSUs/RAM etc and give it a go - one running Boinc with 1 CPU utilisation and the other with 2.

I really need to get out more..... worried

laughing Ady


biggrin You certainly do go the extra mile Sir!

laughing You sound like David Autumns, you realise that there is no cure for your crunching addiction

smile I am looking forward to hearing the results of your findings, as I am sure are many other members who frequent the Forums
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Date....................Runtime...................Daily Points.......Daily Results.........Place

02/16/2006..... 1:036:03:45:15.......... 254,959............. 1,236................. #7

02/15/2006..... 1:030:04:35:29.......... 248,588............. 1,218................. #7
02/14/2006..... 1:026:03:02:37.......... 259,095............. 1,378................. #7
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Graham, both BOINC and UD run at the lowest priority on a Windows box. Thus, when I was making the switch, I had both running and saw both with just under 50 percent in task manager. I would exepect on any compter that has a single CPU, that is what you are going to see. If you muck with the priority for one, that will simply leave the other one idle as it will not see any free cycles. I'm no hardware guru by ANY stretch of the imagination so if these HTT chips are simply single CPUs that "fool" windows, I would expect that you'd really see the same thing there. On a true multi-CPU box, you could if fact run both BOINC and UD keeping them on separate CPUs. In that case, it's just like having multiple machines. Given how many machines hit the upper limits on the UD benchmarks, I can't imagine a multi-CPU box that wouldn't. In that case, running UD on any of the CPUs would mean being constrained by that. In other words, you'd be better off running BOINC. So just run BOINC on all the CPUs. If you look at the lower end machines not constrained by the UD benchmark limits, it may very well be that there is a scenario that concludes it is better to run UD on that machine.
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I know what you mean. Last night I had 469,440, today I have 471,782. I was hesitant at first to switch over now I'm glad I did. biggrin


Hi Jim

I switched over 5 days ago and things are starting to even out now

I have had my largest single day today ever in 15 months of crunching

biggrin 6230 points and still 6 hours to go, woohoo

I am one happy puppy, let me tell you


Yes, you really want to give BOINC at least a week before you start comparing your results. The result validation process makes things much different. I currently have about 2500 WCG points waiting from the four Pending Validation results and the one still Inconclusive result. The four in Pending validation are NOT from yesterday or today. They are scattered. One is from 7 days ago, one from 6, one from 4 and the other from 3. Clearly, some results can take a while to validate and others are much quicker. The whole validation process can skew how things look depending on how your results are flowing thru it. I've had two days where I've had enough results validate to earn 2700+ points that day. I've had others where it was zero. To get over 2700 points in a day with UD, I had to let a single WU run for about five days - about 600 points a day which was my usual max per day on UD.
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It's way out

After just 1 days worth of crunching on this machine I bagged 1784 points in 24 hours. As you all know wink with UD 29.4 *24 = 705.6

I make that 2.53* the points of UD sorry folks to be a party pooper but that's just not right.

I've hurtled past Emilpalm yesterday after a week or so of just hanging onto his/her coat tails and I've had one machine with me on the trip to Glasgow off line.

I have to say it needs sorting

In the interests of accuracy of defining the correction factor wink I need to gather more evidence over the next couple of days whistling

I'll let you know

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Dave --

This was brought up in the Chat Room and knreed responded to it here where he says:
If you still feel that you are not earning your fair share of points using one agent or the other, then we encourage you to switch to the other agent. The scientific work being performed has the same value on either platform.

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Cheers Dave

Ah I see it is a bit of social engineering biggrin

The value (i.e. speed of crunching) being the same on both platforms (per processor or core)

For a level playing field though a correction factor (which can be done as we saw for the Linux Boinc) needs applying

UD is easier to install for the newbie as you don't need to go get your account code and it's prettier which might appeal more to your casual leave it on the screensaver cruncher (all of which adds processor time to the project which is the goal)

btw can anyone explain why the Boinc agent uploads a couple of files after each result

17/02/2006 03:52:14|World Community Grid|Started upload of faah0179_atv_x6711_00_1_0
17/02/2006 03:52:14|World Community Grid|Started upload of faah0179_atv_x6711_00_1_1

could it be that we are getting 2 results per work unit hence twice the points?

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It's way out

After just 1 days worth of crunching on this machine I bagged 1784 points in 24 hours. As you all know wink with UD 29.4 *24 = 705.6

I make that 2.53* the points of UD sorry folks to be a party pooper but that's just not right.

I've hurtled past Emilpalm yesterday after a week or so of just hanging onto his/her coat tails and I've had one machine with me on the trip to Glasgow off line.

I have to say it needs sorting

In the interests of accuracy of defining the correction factor wink I need to gather more evidence over the next couple of days whistling

I'll let you know

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David.

Here are the BOINC stats for my P4 3.4GHz HT with 1.25GB of RAM. This machine runs both the UD & BOINC agents at once. As you can see, the points are not exactly out of this world. You would have them reduced? Not everyone gains huge benefit from running BOINC, and having the points allocation reduced would do nothing to encourage more members to run the agent.


Date............... CPU time................ Points.......... WUs
02/17/2006... 0:000:04:08:05.... 196............. 1
02/16/2006... 0:000:22:48:49.... 1,145.......... 2
02/15/2006... 0:000:08:13:15.... 390............. 1
02/14/2006... 0:001:03:06:29.... 1,356.......... 4
02/13/2006... 0:000:23:49:31.... 1,202.......... 2
02/12/2006... 0:000:18:27:13.... 775............. 2
02/11/2006... 0:001:07:53:14.... 1,481.......... 4
02/10/2006... 0:000:19:03:22.... 965............. 3
02/09/2006... 0:000:16:13:20.... 831............. 3
02/08/2006... 0:000:02:24:19.... 142............. 1

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