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snip ... So that is one heck of a jump for one computer running both systems at the same time. You are running UD and BOINC simultaneously? Do you have dual processors, or what is the story on that? Is that something the rest of us might be able to do with 'typical' home computers in order to help more? Thanks. Bill Velek |
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snip ... So that is one heck of a jump for one computer running both systems at the same time. You are running UD and BOINC simultaneously? Do you have dual processors, or what is the story on that? Is that something the rest of us might be able to do with 'typical' home computers in order to help more? Thanks. Bill Velek Hi BillI tried running both UD Rosetta and BOINC on a AMD 64 3400+ at the same time The Rosetta Agent under UD took 10 hours and returned 390 Points The faah WU also took 10 hours but only showed 5 hours of processing, due to sharing the CPU cycles Points returned for the Faah WU 396 Points Had I run BOINC on its own, I would have completed 10 hours of processing, giving me the same amount of points as I got by running both agents at once So there was no advantage for me in running both Agents at once Unless you have a Dual Processor, Dual Core or hyperthreading there is no advantage to running both If however you do, then you deserve the extra points that you are awarded, as you are doing twice the amount of work on one rig  You are also helping to return more work which is why we are all hereI hope this makes sense to you |
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I know what you mean. Last night I had 469,440, today I have 471,782. I was hesitant at first to switch over now I'm glad I did.
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I know what you mean. Last night I had 469,440, today I have 471,782. I was hesitant at first to switch over now I'm glad I did.  Hi Jim I switched over 5 days ago and things are starting to even out now I have had my largest single day today ever in 15 months of crunching 6230 points and still 6 hours to go, woohoo I am one happy puppy, let me tell you[Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Feb 16, 2006 8:14:06 PM] |
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Unless you have a Dual Processor, Dual Core or hyperthreading there is no advantage to running both Hi Graham - fully agree with you. Just one thing to make folks aware of, hyperthread (HTT) chips are not true dual core - they just trick windows into thinking they are - there is no advantage in trying to run two WU's at once on these, the overall effect is a slowdown of both. |
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Unless you have a Dual Processor, Dual Core or hyperthreading there is no advantage to running both Hi Graham - fully agree with you. Just one thing to make folks aware of, hyperthread (HTT) chips are not true dual core - they just trick windows into thinking they are - there is no advantage in trying to run two WU's at once on these, the overall effect is a slowdown of both.  Hi AdywebbMy comments on the hyperthreading was based on measured results from one of our team members, as he has reported an overall increase in points by running both Agents at once Is it possible that it could work for some but not for others? Are you a stats junkie by the way |
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Hi Adywebb My comments on the hyperthreading was based on measured results from one of our team members, as he has reported an overall increase in points by running both Agents at once Is it possible that it could work for some but not for others? Are you a stats junkie by the wayI suppose it could be, but in my experience - and other reports on this site and elsewhere , running two units at once on a HTT chip has throttled back both. Even though in task manager it shows a thread only using 50% CPU usage, it is in fact using 100% - windows is merely tricked into thinking it has two seperate cores. I suppose I am a stats junkie in a way - I am very proud of the work I do to help find a cure so others can live - I was unable to help my Mum survive a few years ago, or my Dad survive just before Christmas, so want to do all I can now. |
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I will give my experience with HT if it is welcome.
The short answer is, it depends. I have noticed today, that my HT rig *did* have a slowdown when running BOINC and the WCG agent. While I have not ran it long enough to get a true understanding, it appears that both will slow down, but how you use your system will have a bearing on how many results you net over time. If you use your system for nothing else, my gut feeling is you will notice more results *over time* running both at once. If you use it a lot for other processes, you will suck more CPU time away from both processes, slowing them down even more. Just an unofficial early observation. |
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I suppose again it all depends on what agents you use - WCG + Boinc or Boinc on its own with 2 CPU's enabled.
I think if your used to just using the WCG agent, then changing to Boinc regardless of whether you have 2 CPU enabled on a HTT, you will probably get an increase in points due to the benchmarking difference, particularly if its a higher rated CPU. It would interesting to see a comparison of two identical HTT machines, both using Boinc - one with, and one without the 2 CPU utilisation. Maybe then we can get a better idea.  |
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