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BobbyB
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Re: 2023-08-17 Update (Weekend work unit shortage and OPNG issue)

Same here. Getting SCC and MCM (as per my limit on Linux)

I cheated and doubled my limits on my 3 faster machines yesterday morning (Friday)

Hopefully a week-end without babysitting
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Re: 2023-08-17 Update (Weekend work unit shortage and OPNG issue)

Hopefully a week-end without babysitting

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Re: 2023-08-17 Update (Weekend work unit shortage and OPNG issue)

Everything is looking good at my home and at the office. Thanks!
Now I can only wish good luck resolving OPNG issue.
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Re: 2023-08-17 Update (Weekend work unit shortage and OPNG issue)

@TigerLily Interesting condition here:
[colors added to make it easier to see column info, _1 WU is mine]
Why is _3 WU still waiting to be sent? Is it "stuck"??

Project name: Smash Childhood Cancer
Created: Jul. 27, 2023 - 15:22 UTC
Name: SCC1_0004127_MyoD1-B_91226
Minimum Quorum: 2
Replication: 2


Result name OS type OS version Status Sent time Time due/ Return time Cpu time/ Elapsed time Claimed credit/ Granted credit

SCC1_0004127_MyoD1-B_91226_0 Microsoft Windows 10 Professional x64 Edition, (10.00.19045.00) Error 2023-08-04 11:12:58 UTC 2023-08-10 12:22:23 UTC 43.1 / 0

SCC1_0004127_MyoD1-B_91226_1 Microsoft Windows 11 Professional x64 Edition, (10.00.22621.00) Pending Validation 2023-08-04 11:13:56 UTC 2023-08-04 14:54:18 UTC 3.36 / 3.45 114.2 / 0

SCC1_0004127_MyoD1-B_91226_2 Microsoft Windows 10 Professional x64 Edition, (10.00.19045.00) User Aborted 2023-08-12 18:21:32 UTC 2023-08-17 14:49:54 UTC 9.33 / 66.88 229.9 / 0

SCC1_0004127_MyoD1-B_91226_3 Waiting to be sent

Oh, and WU flow has been good here. Thanks to all concerned!
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Re: 2023-08-17 Update (Weekend work unit shortage and OPNG issue)

I'm getting a good flow of WUs. My computer has been running all weekend, and it has been wonderful.

Like mentioned by others earlier. Resends aren't going out in a timely manner. Here is an example. This one needed to go out on the 15th.
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/351945109
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Re: 2023-08-17 Update (Weekend work unit shortage and OPNG issue)

Hi Bruce,

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. The issue has been brought to the tech team to investigate.
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Re: 2023-08-17 Update (Weekend work unit shortage and OPNG issue)

I'm getting a good flow of WUs. My computer has been running all weekend, and it has been wonderful.

Like mentioned by others earlier. Resends aren't going out in a timely manner. Here is an example. This one needed to go out on the 15th.
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/351945109

Wonderful? Well, "chacun à son goût"... wink

For all the cases I have seen, those "waiting to be sent" WUs were WUs that had their status "Pending Verification" rather than "Pending Validation". Haven't found any of the later status showing this.and it also seems to be primarily on macOS, which showing a larger "mismatch" in the OS version.And there have been other peculiarities in regards to "Darwin" targeting WUs in various thread...

Also, there seems to be another problem brewing in the background, as I noticed that overall, the amount of WUs still being held on the Results page since Thurday over the weekend has more than quadrupled for me, which seems to indicate that the usual "clean up job" isn't running as it should...


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Re: 2023-08-17 Update (Weekend work unit shortage and OPNG issue)

I'm getting a good flow of WUs. My computer has been running all weekend, and it has been wonderful.

Like mentioned by others earlier. Resends aren't going out in a timely manner. Here is an example. This one needed to go out on the 15th.
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/351945109

Wonderful? Well, "chacun à son goût"... wink

For all the cases I have seen, those "waiting to be sent" WUs were WUs that had their status "Pending Verification" rather than "Pending Validation". Haven't found any of the later status showing this.and it also seems to be primarily on macOS, which showing a larger "mismatch" in the OS version.And there have been other peculiarities in regards to "Darwin" targeting WUs in various thread...

Also, there seems to be another problem brewing in the background, as I noticed that overall, the amount of WUs still being held on the Results page since Thurday over the weekend has more than quadrupled for me, which seems to indicate that the usual "clean up job" isn't running as it should...
Ralf


I have the "waiting to to be sent" appear on both pending verification and pending validation. Since about 90% of my out put is in Linux, they appear much more often for Linux than Windows. Most of them appear to be older than August 20th.I currently have about 200 listed in the "pending" category. I agree the "clean up job is probably not running.

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Re: 2023-08-17 Update (Weekend work unit shortage and OPNG issue)

Ralf, Sgt. Joe;

Regarding the "clean up job" -- the assimilation/file deletion process seems to be running just fine for both SCC1 and MCM1 at present[1]; I've used the API to sift through all the tasks I've returned that haven't already been "cleaned up" and I couldn't find a single one that was Valid where validation appeared to have happened much more than 48 hours ago... I tried to re-visit some of the tasks that were crowding that 2 day limit an hour or so later, and they had all been assimilated and deleted[2].

In my case, I'm seeing a lot of Valid tasks that look as if they're being held up somewhere because it has taken more than a week to get a wingman to validate! This can give the impression that clean-up isn't happening if there are substantial numbers of missed deadlines! However, at the moment most of my substantial list of Valid items is simply hundreds of SCC1 tasks that took between 15 and 40 minutes each to run, instead of 45 minutes to over an hour (the FLI1-A target is somewhat smaller than the MyoD1-A/B/C targets so those tasks run quite a lot faster!)

As for the "Waiting to be sent" -- those are retry requests that are far enough back in the system to not interest the feeder for some reason or another. I wonder if something they've done to try to maintain a flow of [new] work has significantly changed the way the feeder picks tasks -- standard BOINC has a multiplicity of ways of trying to manage task selection, and maybe IBM/WCG added even more variants :-)

Cheers - Al.

P.S. If you have evidence of work units that are currently taking much more than 2 days to disappear after validation please publish some related work-unit numbers as I (for one) would be interested in seeing if there's a pattern amongst them... :-)

[1] Actually, my validated tasks have been disappearing consistently for quite a while -- it's not something that has just changed...

[2] I think it can take up to a day for all necessary result files to be saved after validation (at which point the WU is marked as ready for deletion); it then waits a day before actually clearing out the WU from the database. Hence the 48 hours or so...
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Re: 2023-08-17 Update (Weekend work unit shortage and OPNG issue)

Al, I have these on a Windows 11 Pro with Intel i9-10850K.

MCM1_0202565_9114_1	ANewFreedom	Pending Validation	2023-08-18 15:35:50 UTC	2023-08-24 15:35:50 UTC	2023-08-18 23:21:23 UTC	1.68 / 1.92	100.1 / 0
SCC1_0004224_FLI1-A_85509_1 ANewFreedom Pending Validation 2023-08-18 10:11:19 UTC 2023-08-24 10:11:19 UTC 2023-08-18 15:35:50 UTC 1.39 / 1.52 5.3 / 0
SCC1_0004224_FLI1-A_85513_1 ANewFreedom Pending Validation 2023-08-18 10:11:19 UTC 2023-08-24 10:11:19 UTC 2023-08-18 15:35:50 UTC 1.29 / 1.42 4.9 / 0
SCC1_0004226_FLI1-A_91983_1 ANewFreedom Pending Validation 2023-08-18 10:11:19 UTC 2023-08-24 10:11:19 UTC 2023-08-18 16:41:13 UTC 1.54 / 1.67 5.8 / 0
SCC1_0004226_FLI1-A_92002_1 ANewFreedom Pending Validation 2023-08-18 10:11:19 UTC 2023-08-24 10:11:19 UTC 2023-08-18 16:41:13 UTC 1.66 / 1.8 61.9 / 0
SCC1_0004205_MyoD1-C_53061_1 ANewFreedom Pending Validation 2023-08-17 21:39:33 UTC 2023-08-23 21:39:33 UTC 2023-08-18 08:04:43 UTC 2.88 / 3.03 88.1 / 0
SCC1_0004206_MyoD1-C_54524_1 ANewFreedom Pending Validation 2023-08-17 21:39:33 UTC 2023-08-23 21:39:33 UTC 2023-08-18 07:48:16 UTC 2.4 / 2.52 82.5 / 0
SCC1_0004206_MyoD1-C_54529_1 ANewFreedom Pending Validation 2023-08-17 21:39:33 UTC 2023-08-23 21:39:33 UTC 2023-08-18 09:09:52 UTC 2.58 / 2.72 78.4 / 0
SCC1_0004205_MyoD1-C_53048_1 ANewFreedom Pending Validation 2023-08-17 21:39:33 UTC 2023-08-23 21:39:33 UTC 2023-08-18 07:48:16 UTC 2.45 / 2.56 83.7 / 0
SCC1_0004224_FLI1-A_47191_1 ANewFreedom Pending Validation 2023-08-17 21:39:33 UTC 2023-08-23 21:39:33 UTC 2023-08-18 06:12:40 UTC 0.92 / 0.97 32.2 / 0
SCC1_0004206_MyoD1-C_54450_1 ANewFreedom Pending Validation 2023-08-17 21:39:33 UTC 2023-08-23 21:39:33 UTC 2023-08-18 07:48:16 UTC 2.33 / 2.46 80.4 / 0
SCC1_0004205_MyoD1-C_53029_1 ANewFreedom Pending Validation 2023-08-17 21:39:33 UTC 2023-08-23 21:39:33 UTC 2023-08-18 09:09:52 UTC 3.07 / 3.23 93.1 / 0
SCC1_0004195_MyoD1-C_71881_0 ANewFreedom Pending Validation 2023-08-16 19:52:50 UTC 2023-08-22 19:52:50 UTC 2023-08-16 22:09:41 UTC 1.67 / 2.06 14.1 / 0
MCM1_0202491_9350_0 ANewFreedom Pending Validation 2023-08-16 18:07:01 UTC 2023-08-22 18:07:01 UTC 2023-08-16 19:52:49 UTC 1.49 / 1.74 17.2 / 0
MCM1_0202491_9352_1 ANewFreedom Pending Validation 2023-08-16 18:07:01 UTC 2023-08-22 18:07:01 UTC 2023-08-16 19:52:49 UTC 1.49 / 1.73 17.2 / 0
MCM1_0202491_9372_1 ANewFreedom Pending Validation 2023-08-16 18:07:01 UTC 2023-08-22 18:07:01 UTC 2023-08-16 19:52:49 UTC 1.49 / 1.73 17.2 / 0
MCM1_0202491_9368_0 ANewFreedom Pending Validation 2023-08-16 18:07:01 UTC 2023-08-22 18:07:01 UTC 2023-08-16 19:50:44 UTC 1.48 / 1.72 17.1 / 0
MCM1_0202493_9237_1 ANewFreedom Pending Validation 2023-08-16 18:07:01 UTC 2023-08-22 18:07:01 UTC 2023-08-16 19:52:49 UTC 1.49 / 1.73 17.2 / 0
MCM1_0202490_6698_1 ANewFreedom Pending Validation 2023-08-16 18:07:01 UTC 2023-08-22 18:07:01 UTC 2023-08-16 20:30:16 UTC 1.47 / 1.73 17.1 / 0

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