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Re: RYZEN Threadripper 2990WX 32-Core

The 2990WX I am having some heat issues with yes (triple fan setup). Tried Precision Boost Override with a negative voltage offset to let the CPU and Motherboard decide for themselves how high it can clock, and that worked okay, but right now I am running 3.3GHz on all cores at 1.03Vcore I believe. CPU runs a bit hot (68 - 78 degrees Tdie (not Tctl)). But, that's because summer is here and it gets really hot inside. Ambient is 26-28 on sunny days now. In june-august if it gets really hot outside then ambient will be 31 or so. Chassis is the ThermalTake Level 10 GT Snow.

All temperatures in Celcius.

It's a really nice CPU though, hard not to fall in love with it and it would have so much more to give with better cooling. Thinking of getting the Cooler Master H500M (Mesh) chassis as it has received good reviews.

Maybe just run at 75% through summer if it gets too warm. Then when winter comes back around it will make a nice supplemental heater smile


Yes, maybe that's what I will have to do once temperatures start rising even more outside - first summer with the 2990WX so that should be interesting. I am looking into changing chassis to the Cooler Master H500M, which is not my first choice based on looks alone, but it has been reviewed very positively by GamersNexus (they have a great YouTube channel) in terms of both CPU and GPU thermals.

I wonder if it would be feasible to create some kind of exhaust vent for some of your warmer running systems. Just off the top of my head, I am thinking about those standalone air conditioner units that sit on the floor with rollers, then have a tube to exhaust out the window. Position the computer near a window, run a large flexible tube from the exhaust fan(s) to a window, and have the tube exit out at the window. I guess if you have your windows open all day that probably wouldn't help much, but if you run air conditioner it might help. Just thinking out loud...

With all the different exhaust vents on computers though, not sure this would work or how efficient it would be. But if it helped control the heat inside the room, that system and all the other systems may drop a little in operating temperatures. Also keeping the curtains pulled when you are not at home can help keep some of the radiant heat from the sun from building up.
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Re: RYZEN Threadripper 2990WX 32-Core

The 2990WX I am having some heat issues with yes (triple fan setup). Tried Precision Boost Override with a negative voltage offset to let the CPU and Motherboard decide for themselves how high it can clock, and that worked okay, but right now I am running 3.3GHz on all cores at 1.03Vcore I believe. CPU runs a bit hot (68 - 78 degrees Tdie (not Tctl)). But, that's because summer is here and it gets really hot inside. Ambient is 26-28 on sunny days now. In june-august if it gets really hot outside then ambient will be 31 or so. Chassis is the ThermalTake Level 10 GT Snow.

All temperatures in Celcius.

It's a really nice CPU though, hard not to fall in love with it and it would have so much more to give with better cooling. Thinking of getting the Cooler Master H500M (Mesh) chassis as it has received good reviews.

Maybe just run at 75% through summer if it gets too warm. Then when winter comes back around it will make a nice supplemental heater smile


Yes, maybe that's what I will have to do once temperatures start rising even more outside - first summer with the 2990WX so that should be interesting. I am looking into changing chassis to the Cooler Master H500M, which is not my first choice based on looks alone, but it has been reviewed very positively by GamersNexus (they have a great YouTube channel) in terms of both CPU and GPU thermals.

I wonder if it would be feasible to create some kind of exhaust vent for some of your warmer running systems. Just off the top of my head, I am thinking about those standalone air conditioner units that sit on the floor with rollers, then have a tube to exhaust out the window. Position the computer near a window, run a large flexible tube from the exhaust fan(s) to a window, and have the tube exit out at the window. I guess if you have your windows open all day that probably wouldn't help much, but if you run air conditioner it might help. Just thinking out loud...

With all the different exhaust vents on computers though, not sure this would work or how efficient it would be. But if it helped control the heat inside the room, that system and all the other systems may drop a little in operating temperatures. Also keeping the curtains pulled when you are not at home can help keep some of the radiant heat from the sun from building up.


An air hose for venting out hot air is not a bad idea actually, perhaps I would need an extra fan at the rear end of the hose to help blow out the air, especially if the hose is long.

The ThreadRipper PC is my main working computer and my desk is not close enough to a window currenlty. Perhaps if I rearrange the furnishing some day I might be able to try it.

I have an AC unit like you describe, but I can't leave the window open when I am not at home. We have hinged windows which makes the hose from the AC a bit of a problem, but I installed a special window "skirt" to remedy this and now the apartment gets cooled down much faster an more efficiently as hot air is not re-entering through the opened windows anymore.

I have been thinking about a 360mm closed loop water cooler, but I am not so sure they are durable/reliable enough for continuous use 24/7.
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Re: RYZEN Threadripper 2990WX 32-Core

"I have been thinking about a 360mm closed loop water cooler, but I am not so sure they are durable/reliable enough for continuous use 24/7."

My Ryzen 7 2700 system uses a 240mm closed loop liquid cooler. Running 100% cpu usage and it is currently at 36 degrees C (room is 72 degrees F). Crunches 24/7.
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Re: RYZEN Threadripper 2990WX 32-Core

Good quality closed loop systems seem to have come a long way in recent years. The pumps seem to be higher quality and the reviews on them are generally very positive (some cheaper ones tend to have loud pumps, etc).

I wouldn't buy a dell/alienware system with closed loop though. We purchased a lot of liquid cooled systems from them about 10 years ago at the office, and the AIO liquid coolers failed in them on a regular basis. One of them actually developed a leak, and it fried the motherboard and the GPUs underneath. And each time, dell refused to send the parts to us without a tech doing the swap which was a real pain for us. Once I was asking the tech why they failed so often and he said cause the pick the cheapest crap to throw in their systems. I asked if the new part was an updated part and he just laughed. When he would leave he would say "see you soon". After warranty ended, the ones that I could swap out to air coolers I just swapped.

Granted that was 10 years ago, their AIO liquid coolers may be better now. But fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...
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Re: RYZEN Threadripper 2990WX 32-Core

Thanks for sharing your experiences with AIO coolers!
Granted they have been developing greater quality for the pumps and they're are now even alternatives to Asetek.

My story is I had a Corsair H100i 240mm cooler and it worked fine about 6 months, then I got significantly higher temperatures suddenly. Reaseating the coldplate to the Cpu with new paste didn't help. Max fan speeds (push-pull config) didn't help either. I got it replaced by Corsair. The new cooler lasted 3 months before the same symptoms reappeared. (100% load 24/7). For it replaced again but sold the new unit while it was still wrapped in plastic wrap.

Ever since, I haven't tried or really regained trust for water cooling AIOs.
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cool Re: RYZEN Threadripper 2990WX 32-Core

CPU Comparisons by the LHC Project : Hot Topic

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX 32-Core Processor [Family 23 Model 8 Stepping 2] 13 computers 216.62? cores possibly Dual Socket 4.50 GFlops per core 975.66 GF on CPU
Phenomenal performance.

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X 16-Core Processor [Family 23 Model 8 Stepping 2] 25computers 18.72 cores 5.18per GF core 97.01 GF on cpu

Dev kit would be great! H/T Hyper threading seems to be off on average

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Processor [Family 23 Model 1 Stepping 1] 62 computers 29.03 cores H/T on 4.74 GFlops per core 137.52 GF on CPU

By this comparison H/T Hyper thread seems a great thing on the 1950X & to compare these two chips,(2950X / 1950X) cooling is possibly the issue or Something else ..

https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/cpu_list.php

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Re: RYZEN Threadripper 2990WX 32-Core

That's a bit misleading. From the link, the GFLOPS/core seems reasonably plausible, although I would expect 2700X to score higher per core than the Threadripper.

The higher score per computer for 1950X vs the 2950X seems to be because the people running the 1950X are using more cores on average - 29 cores (out of 32) for the 1950X vs 19 cores for the 2950X. It doesn't say much about the CPU, but rather about how people are using it. E.g. I frequently run WCG on my 2950X at 8, 12 or 16 cores, because I have other stuff running too. So the only thing the "per computer" score tells us is that a larger proportion of the 1950X's are dedicated crunchers, while many of the 2950X are used for other things as well.

For the 2990WX, the number of cores (216) and GFLOPS per computer is just plain wrong, must be a bug somewhere. The 2990WX has twice the number of cores and slightly lower per-core performance than the 1950X/2950X, so we would expect a bit less than twice the performance per computer.

But the per-core GFLOPS appears plausible for the 2990WX too. If you're using these data to decide on which CPU to get, go with the perf-per-core and multiply by the number of cores.
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Re: RYZEN Threadripper 2990WX 32-Core

I just got one of these going on boinc. I also have the 16 core version. I was about to send it back due to low performance but then I noticed it had downloaded a ton of 10 hour long microbiome tasks on almost every core for days. For whatever reason this results in low points per day and very little total tasks turned in. My scores looked bad. CPU cores running at 55 degrees or less, system appeared to be doing nothing much of use. But then it got ahold of regular tasks like the 16 core was running and it is now on par with where I expected it. Last 12 hour turn in was around 250,000 points, 75 days run time. CPU's started doing more and temps back up in 70's. It seems very dependent on certain tasks to really shine. I don't know if its worth the higher price yet but its starting to make me excited finally.
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Re: RYZEN Threadripper 2990WX 32-Core

I just got one of these going on boinc. I also have the 16 core version. I was about to send it back due to low performance but then I noticed it had downloaded a ton of 10 hour long microbiome tasks on almost every core for days. For whatever reason this results in low points per day and very little total tasks turned in. My scores looked bad. CPU cores running at 55 degrees or less, system appeared to be doing nothing much of use.


There is a thread that discusses this issue in the MIP section of the forum:
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg...d_thread,40374_offset,100

Evidently, Rosetta has a Level 3 Cache problem when many instances of MIP are run on the same processor. If you want full credit while running MIP, lower the amount of MIP instances.

This is the equation I use to determine how many instances of MIP I should run on a given processor:
Max_core_count_MIP = floor( cpu_L3_cache_size_MB / 5 );

the 2990wx has 64 MB of L3 Cache therefore --->
Max_core_count_MIP = floor (64/5) = 12

the 2950wx has 32MB of L3 Cache
Max_core_count_MIP = floor(32/5) = 6

So only run 12 instances of MIP on the 2990wx, and only run 6 instances on the 2950x
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