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Re: RYZEN Threadripper 2990WX 32-Core

Here's an update:
The PC had been up and crunching nonstop since Jan 14th 2019 (last restart). Installed the Coreprio application and service at about 1AM local time. Went to sleep. Woke up at 8AM and whoa - Black Screen of Death!

Rebooted the PC and got the "No boot device..." POST error I mentioned earlier that I get with this motherboard. So, it is a very interesting coincidence that within a few hours after installing the coreprio service Windows crashed.

Anyway, I'm back up and running again. Will let it run once again and see what will happen.


Regarding Linux...well...I'm much mnore comfortable in Windows and have all the applications that I need there. Since I use the PC daily (as it is my main PC also as well as my main cruncher) I don't want to dual-boot. Also, then it won't be able to do crunching in Linux while I'm using it for other tasks in Windows? And I would have to remember to boot back into Linux when I'm done in Windows?


Couple of things.. You could possibly have a misbehaving CPU, way back when I bought my first Ryzen 7 I had no end of trouble with it and virtually replaced everything in the system (motherboard, cooling - twice and a giant case to get more air into it) trying to track down the cause, in the end it was the CPU which to AMD's credit they tested and replaced within three days.

As for crunching with Linux, yes it will give more performance and if I'm not mistaken there is a windows app that allows you to run ubuntu apps within windows, whether it will run Boinc or not I have no idea as I havent tried it yet.



Could be a shady CPU of course, but so far all results produced are valid and I don't get any other odd behaviour. Anyway, I let it run with the CorePrio turned on from start and it has been running for over a day now. This time no crash, but the results are not good:

1. I get very low Points-Per-Hour, like 7.75 BOINC p/h where usually I'd get 22.5p/h or so.
2. Checked with HWINFO64 Sensors mode and saw that only the first 16 cores or so were utilized to 100%, the rest were hovering between 90-98%. Turned off CorePrio Service and then all the core's utilization went back to 100%.

So for BOINC-crunching, based on the tests I did, it will probably not do much good. My suspicions is that it would give a benefint in applications that can utilize 16 cores because then it would matter which CCX cluster that the threads will be run at. But in the case of BOINC/WCG...using all 64 threads already...I don't know what good would come by moving them around?

Regarding Linux, maybe a project for later. Right now it's too much effort than I can afford since there would be a learning-curve that need time to follow along and I can't find that time right now unfortunately.
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Re: RYZEN Threadripper 2990WX 32-Core

Here's a very good guide on how to install Linux Mint 19 to a VM
https://www.ceos3c.com/open-source/install-linux-mint-19-virtualbox/
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Re: RYZEN Threadripper 2990WX 32-Core

in the case of BOINC/WCG...using all 64 threads already...I don't know what good would come by moving them around?
This issue isn't a lack of utilization. It's that the Windows scheduler sometimes can't decide what to do with all the threads, and spends half the CPU runtime merely shuffling threads around. The CPU is being utilized, just not for anything useful.

I don't know whether it affects WCG. But if coreprio helps, it's through the "NUMA dissociater".

The Coreprio authors note that
the NUMA Dissociater doesn’t ‘take’ sometimes, particularly on the 2990wx. [...] restarting the [...] process 10 times, 50% of those instances won’t result in the ‘fast’ edition. This is still a massive improvement, as without the NUMA Dissociater, 100% of runs will be slow.


Fundamentally, it's probably a bug in the Windows scheduler, and this is a obscure workaround that works (sometimes) for reasons that are not entirely clear.
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Re: RYZEN Threadripper 2990WX 32-Core

I don't have a ThreadRipper, but I do have 4 mini-ITX Ryzen builds in a custom tower chassis:
https://i.imgur.com/KCv3VWr.jpg
Here's the dev diary of the long road to building this thing (I am not good at woodworking or metalsmithing, and had no clue what I was doing):
https://firepear.net/grid/greenhouse.html
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Re: RYZEN Threadripper 2990WX 32-Core

Nice project mdxi!
Why don't you start a seperate thread for a disussion about this? I guess there are many people with questions about this!
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Re: RYZEN Threadripper 2990WX 32-Core

https://github.com/dustinkirkland/pollinate

AMD Ryzen & thread ripper have rand RNG units and are great pollinator nodes.
submit your pollinator nodes to security@ubuntu.com
use https://www.dynu.com/en-US/ to make a entropy.dyndns.net (for example) and send that to ubuntu security

https://is.gd/Entropy
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Re: RYZEN Threadripper 2990WX 32-Core

You folks with any thread ripper processors having heat issues? Looking at the newegg feedback on these chips seem to point to heat issues. thanks
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Re: RYZEN Threadripper 2990WX 32-Core

No issues here, still crunching hard on other projects. Unless you try to clock it to 4.1ghz and crunch at that speed, then yes, you may running into some issues :) Mines are doing fine at 3.3 and 3.5ghz with just a Noctua (single fan).
Projects I've ran them so far:
WCG
Universe
Rakesearch
Yoyo
TN-Grid
LHC@Home
DHEP
Cosmology@Home
and a few others . None gave me any problem. I'm planning to run Asteroids next. That's gonna be a hot one.
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Re: RYZEN Threadripper 2990WX 32-Core

You folks with any thread ripper processors having heat issues? Looking at the newegg feedback on these chips seem to point to heat issues. thanks


The 2990WX I am having some heat issues with yes (triple fan setup). Tried Precision Boost Override with a negative voltage offset to let the CPU and Motherboard decide for themselves how high it can clock, and that worked okay, but right now I am running 3.3GHz on all cores at 1.03Vcore I believe. CPU runs a bit hot (68 - 78 degrees Tdie (not Tctl)). But, that's because summer is here and it gets really hot inside. Ambient is 26-28 on sunny days now. In june-august if it gets really hot outside then ambient will be 31 or so. Chassis is the ThermalTake Level 10 GT Snow.

All temperatures in Celcius.

It's a really nice CPU though, hard not to fall in love with it and it would have so much more to give with better cooling. Thinking of getting the Cooler Master H500M (Mesh) chassis as it has received good reviews.
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Re: RYZEN Threadripper 2990WX 32-Core

The 2990WX I am having some heat issues with yes (triple fan setup). Tried Precision Boost Override with a negative voltage offset to let the CPU and Motherboard decide for themselves how high it can clock, and that worked okay, but right now I am running 3.3GHz on all cores at 1.03Vcore I believe. CPU runs a bit hot (68 - 78 degrees Tdie (not Tctl)). But, that's because summer is here and it gets really hot inside. Ambient is 26-28 on sunny days now. In june-august if it gets really hot outside then ambient will be 31 or so. Chassis is the ThermalTake Level 10 GT Snow.

All temperatures in Celcius.

It's a really nice CPU though, hard not to fall in love with it and it would have so much more to give with better cooling. Thinking of getting the Cooler Master H500M (Mesh) chassis as it has received good reviews.

Maybe just run at 75% through summer if it gets too warm. Then when winter comes back around it will make a nice supplemental heater smile
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