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KerSamson
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The question is not how long it takes to compute a WU but furthermore how many credits you finally earn.
----------------------------------------Depending of the project, and sometime of the project phase as well, the duration of Work Unit could vary significantly. Additionally, I did sometimes observe that the starting credits are not always representative until the machine works reliably for a couple of weeks, in particular with not widely spread configuration. I assume that there is not a lot of TR 2990WX operating on WCG. For this reason, a longer test of the TR monster would be probably more representative. Cheers, Yves |
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BladeD
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Actually I didn't have good results with the 2990WX. I think it was related to the fact that it has 4 core packages, but just 2 memory controllers. I used the 1950X before and the calculation time for wcg nearly doubled when I went for the 2990WX. The double amount of cores was compensated by longer calculation times. So I sent it back and put it in my 1950X again. Running on which OS? ![]() |
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Chooka
Cruncher Australia Joined: Jan 25, 2017 Post Count: 48 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Which model, if I may ask? I'm looking into buying my first Noctua CPU cooler for a Dell OptiPlex with a LGA1150 Haswell, if it'll even fit or mount. I don't like the 70C and higher temps. It's Noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074DX2SX7/...=A1Z5H6ZGWCMTNX&psc=1 I'm using on of these on my T/R 1950X and recently bought another fan so it's in push/pull config but my CPU is throttled due to temperature issues. Even with an ambient room temp of 29 degrees Celsius, I cannot cool this beast. I might give the case a clean out and reapply thermal paste but overall I'm disappointed that it's a struggle to run all (or most cores) without being throttled. No doubt a fair bit of heat is coming up from my 2 x Vega 56's. I have 2 x 120mm front, 1 x 120 back and 1 x 200mm top fan. (slightly off topic but currently running Primegrid at 50% CPU usage just to maintain 3.2hz :( A drop to 25% CPU usage gets my speed almost back to stock. I'd seen your stats VietOz as I spend a lot of time trolling stats. Very impressive rigs you have! You're like my Gold Lotto dream LOL. ![]() Oh..btw which thermal paste application method did you use? I've seen a video on Gamers Nexus where the "big blob" worked best lol. I originally went with the std AMD application method of 5 dots. ![]() ![]() |
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ThreadRipper
Veteran Cruncher Sweden Joined: Apr 26, 2007 Post Count: 1324 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I used the 1950X on an ASrock Taichi X399 motherboard. Now running TR2900WX CPU on the same motherboard. VRMs are at a good 70-80 degrees Celsius. Normal temperatures for a VRM. Just make sure you have airflow over the VRMs and temperatures will be okay.
----------------------------------------Running 24/7 with Precision boost Overdrive enabled and the Thermalright SilverArrow TR4 with three fans let's the CPU boost to 3.3 - 3.5GHz. Running MIP1 and ZIKA right now, resulting in 230000-260000 WCG points per day for that machine. Runing SCC before resulted in more points per day. ![]() Join The International Team: https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=CK9RP1BKX1 AMD TR2990WX @ PBO, 64GB Quad 3200MHz 14-17-17-17-1T, RX6900XT @ Stock AMD 3800X @ PBO AMD 2700X @ 4GHz |
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Chooka
Cruncher Australia Joined: Jan 25, 2017 Post Count: 48 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Oh, that's interesting you have a ASROCK Taichi also. I have a question for you. If you sudden lose power to your PC, does it fail to reboot? Or takes forever to reboot?
----------------------------------------I often have to do a system restore or wait HOURS for it to find Windows 10 again. It's done this since day one. I can only put it down to the mobo. The Windows logo just spins round and round. Just last week I swapped a GPU between slots and had the same issue. It's quite frustrating. I was always curious if other had the same issue. I also stopped using the built in wifi. That well known issue of having to reinstall the wifi driver all the time drove me up the wall. Every time my PC crashed I'd have to reinstall the Intel wifi driver :( All hardwired now with Cat 6 so no issue anymore. ![]() ![]() |
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Former Member
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If you sudden lose power to your PC, does it fail to reboot? Or takes forever to reboot? I often have to do a system restore or wait HOURS for it to find Windows 10 again At a guess, that's Windows doing an automatic disk check/repair after a sudden power loss. Power loss isn't good for the computer, you may end up with a corrupted boot disk and have to reinstall. If you lose power frequently, I'd suggest you get a UPS (uninterruptable power supply). You don't need a very big one, just enough to power the PC for a minute or so for a normal shutdown. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Feb 4, 2019 4:48:05 PM] |
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Former Member
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It's Noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3 I'm using on of these on my T/R 1950X and recently bought another fan so it's in push/pull config but my CPU is throttled due to temperature issues. Even with an ambient room temp of 29 degrees Celsius, I cannot cool this beast. I might give the case a clean out and reapply thermal paste but overall I'm disappointed that it's a struggle to run all (or most cores) without being throttled. I'm using the same cooler on a TR 2950x, and I have no temperature throttling. With 32 threads of WCG I'm at 60°C max (Tdie according to HWiNFO64) with 1000rpm on the single included fan. Your room ambient is eight degrees higher than mine, but the fan goes up 1500rpm, so my system should be comfortably (a couple of degrees) below the 68°C limit even at your ambient temps. If you're struggling with temps, I suggest you first try taking off the side panel. If temps improve or throttling is reduced, the issue is airflow through the case, and you can focus on improving that. I don't have temperature issues, but I still have throttling: The CPU runs at 3.8 GHz while it should be able to boost up to around 4.1 GHz on all cores. But I think that's from the power limit (or possibly the current limit), at 3.8 GHz the "package power" (power for the entire CPU) is 179W while the TDP is 180W. I haven't started experimenting with the Ryzen Master PBO yet, but that's where I'll go to increase the limits. |
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Chooka
Cruncher Australia Joined: Jan 25, 2017 Post Count: 48 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
If you sudden lose power to your PC, does it fail to reboot? Or takes forever to reboot? I often have to do a system restore or wait HOURS for it to find Windows 10 again At a guess, that's Windows doing an automatic disk check/repair after a sudden power loss. Power loss isn't good for the computer, you may end up with a corrupted boot disk and have to reinstall. If you lose power frequently, I'd suggest you get a UPS (uninterruptable power supply). You don't need a very big one, just enough to power the PC for a minute or so for a normal shutdown. Yes that does sound like it. It doesn't come up and say that it's doing a repair.... Sometimes it does, most times it doesn't but just the other week it did corrupt the HDD. Windows couldn't repair or find Win 10. I had to do a wipe & reinstall Windows :( I've watched a number of reviews on the T/R CPU's and most times they are being conducted in a room @ 22 degrees Celsius. We have the air con on now set to cool the house to 23 degrees but I have 6 PC's running in my study which is why the ambient temp is so high (currently 30.5) which really doesn't help. I actually moved my PC up off the floor and I tried with the side window off but it made little if ant difference. I guess sometimes BOINC isn't exactly a summer sport ![]() Thank you for the tip on the UPS. ![]() ![]() |
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fufu
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Actually I didn't have good results with the 2990WX. I think it was related to the fact that it has 4 core packages, but just 2 memory controllers. I used the 1950X before and the calculation time for wcg nearly doubled when I went for the 2990WX. The double amount of cores was compensated by longer calculation times. So I sent it back and put it in my 1950X again. Running on which OS? ![]() I'm using Windows 10 64 bit version. |
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fufu
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The question is not how long it takes to compute a WU but furthermore how many credits you finally earn. Depending of the project, and sometime of the project phase as well, the duration of Work Unit could vary significantly. Additionally, I did sometimes observe that the starting credits are not always representative until the machine works reliably for a couple of weeks, in particular with not widely spread configuration. I assume that there is not a lot of TR 2990WX operating on WCG. For this reason, a longer test of the TR monster would be probably more representative. Cheers, Yves Might be. I had a lot of workunits in my queue, switched to the 2990WX and the run times nearly doubled. When I switched back, runtimes were like before. This means it were the same workunits both CPUs had. But maybe this was the problem and I should have cancelled them? |
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