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Re: Weekend Puzzles

I was and still am a bit baffled by the 25 diagonally.

Please read carefully, Sgt.Joe cool :
Diagonally (only 3 letters each! all ending in the same letter)

BTW - Thank you for your supportive comment!
Adri

OK, OK. Apparently I glossed over the "3 letters only" part. Sometimes I just have blinders on and don't see what is as plain as the nose on the face.
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Re: Weekend Puzzles

Adri,

Thanks for the solution and the interesting insight into how you chose some of the words for the puzzle. Personally I'd rather have a less painful/inconvenient inspiration :-)

As for the OUTRO, I mentioned the Bonzo Dog Doodah Band earlier as their "The Intro and the Outro" [1967] might have been the coinage for the word :-) -- it is on my list of words I don't like, but I also don't like the use of "gate" by tabloid writers to mean scandal, so what do I know? :-)

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but I also don't like the use of "gate" by tabloid writers to mean scandal

I am with you on that one. The legacy of Watergate (the scandal, not housing complex) continues to be a part of the lexicon whether we like it or not. The "gate" suffix is overused to a considerable extent. Perhaps it will go away when some other phrase gets the public's fancy. After all, Teapot Dome, while still referenced, never had the cachet of Watergate.
I don't know much about British scandals, but recall Profumo-Keeler to be a pretty big deal.
Anyway, enough off topic.
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Re: Weekend Puzzles

This puzzle should take you no more than 4 minutes, if you're familiar with this type of puzzle. It's Tectonic.
Explanation: The contiguous areas need to be filled with the numbers 1-5 (or less if the number of squares in an area is less than 5): a single square contains the number 1, an area consisting of 2 squares has the numbers 1 & 2, an area consisting of 3 squares contains the numbers 1 to 3, etc. Two adjacent squares (including diagonals) cannot contain the same number. No guessing is needed.

╔═══════╤═══════╦═══════╤═══════╦═══════╤═══════╗
║ │ 5 ║ │ 4 ║ │ ║
║ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║
╟───────┼───────╫───────┼───────╄═══════╅───────╢
║ │ ║ │ │ ║ ║
║ │ ║ │ │ ║ ║
╟───────╆═══════╇═══════╪═══════╈═══════╉───────╢
║ ║ │ 5 │ ║ ║ ║
║ ║ │ │ ║ ║ ║
╠═══════╇═══════╅───────┼───────╫───────╄═══════╣
║ 1 │ ║ │ ║ 2 │ ║
║ │ ║ │ ║ │ ║
╟───────┼───────╄═══════╈═══════╇═══════╅───────╢
║ │ │ ║ │ ║ 3 ║
║ │ │ ║ │ ║ ║
╠═══════╪═══════╪═══════╉───────┼───────╄═══════╣
║ 3 │ │ ║ 5 │ │ 1 ║
║ │ │ ║ │ │ ║
╚═══════╧═══════╧═══════╩═══════╧═══════╧═══════╝


Good luck!
Adri

PS Starting out with the puzzle below, I found it was a bit hard to find the size/shape of the areas, so I decided to look for some better graphics, but it seems not all the necessary Unicode characters (i.e. the ones I would have needed) are provided.

┏━━━━━━━┯━━━━━━━┳━━━━━━━┯━━━━━━━┳━━━━━━━┯━━━━━━━┓
┃ │ 5 ┃ │ 4 ┃ │ ┃
┃ │ ┃ │ ┃ │ ┃
┠───────┼───────╂───────┼───────╄━━━━━━━╅───────┨
┃ │ ┃ │ │ ┃ ┃
┃ │ ┃ │ │ ┃ ┃
┠───────╆━━━━━━━╇━━━━━━━┿━━━━━━━╈━━━━━━━╉───────┨
┃ ┃ │ 5 │ ┃ ┃ ┃
┃ ┃ │ │ ┃ ┃ ┃
┣━━━━━━━╇━━━━━━━╅───────┼───────╂───────╄━━━━━━━┫
┃ 1 │ ┃ │ ┃ 2 │ ┃
┃ │ ┃ │ ┃ │ ┃
┠───────┼───────╄━━━━━━━╈━━━━━━━╇━━━━━━━╅───────┨
┃ │ │ ┃ │ ┃ 3 ┃
┃ │ │ ┃ │ ┃ ┃
┣━━━━━━━┿━━━━━━━┿━━━━━━━╉───────┼───────╄━━━━━━━┫
┃ 3 │ │ ┃ 5 │ │ 1 ┃
┃ │ │ ┃ │ │ ┃
┗━━━━━━━┷━━━━━━━┷━━━━━━━┻━━━━━━━┷━━━━━━━┷━━━━━━━┛

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Re: Weekend Puzzles

Hi Adri,
That was a fun one biggrin
I’ve not done a Tectonic puzzle before, but once I’d got my head around the concept I managed (I think!) to work it out fairly quickly. A lot more than 4 minutes though laughing
Cheers,
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It took me a a more than 4 minutes probably close to 6 or 7 )to solve this once I figured out the exactly how it worked.
I found it easier to work on it if I put it into a spreadsheet with the proper borders in bold.
Interesting puzzle, I have not done any like this before.
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Re: Weekend Puzzles

Adri,

Thanks for introducing me to yet another puzzle format I've not seen before :-)

It makes an interesting change to see a puzzle that doesn't have a "numbers can only appear once per row or column" constraint, a common theme of my regular number puzzle choices (Sudoku, KenKen and Futoshiki)...

You were right about the difficulty level -- I suspect that it would be difficult to produce an extremely hard puzzle in this format (unlike those mentioned above!) That doesn't make it any less fun, though!

I agree with Sgt. Joe that putting it on a spreadsheet grid to get an enhanced view of the borders helped; I don't get out paper, pencils and a ruler to make grids nowadays :-)

Cheers - Al.

P.S. regarding setting puzzles - I'm about half-way through working out a set of clues for another crossword based on that grid you used a week ago -- it could be ready for next weekend if needed, or I can hold it in reserve...
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Re: Weekend Puzzles

I put my answers in a spreadsheet grid too. But I was too lazy at first to add the borders. And as I have only one small screen available at the moment and had to keep switching between the clues and my answers, that didn’t work out too well crying
So in the end I had to colour in the cells in my answer grid and start again blushing
Time spent answering puzzle: about 10 minutes; time spent messing around colouring in spreadsheet grid: about 2 hours wink
Cheers,
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Re: Weekend Puzzles

Mark, Sgt.Joe and Al (plus who knows any others),

After experimenting for a little while with a few box drawings, I came up with this format:

┏━━━━━━━┯━━━━━━━┳━━━━━━━┯━━━━━━━┳━━━━━━━┯━━━━━━━┓
┃ 5 ┃ 4 ┃ ┃
┃ │ ┃ │ ┃ │ ┃
┠─ ─┼─ ─╂─ ─┼─ ─╄━━━━━━━╅─ ─┨
┃ ┃ ┃ ┃
┃ │ ┃ │ │ ┃ ┃
┠─ ─╆━━━━━━━╇━━━━━━━┿━━━━━━━╈━━━━━━━╉─ ─┨
┃ ┃ 5 ┃ ┃ ┃
┃ ┃ │ │ ┃ ┃ ┃
┣━━━━━━━╇━━━━━━━╅─ ─┼─ ─╂─ ─╄━━━━━━━┫
┃ 1 ┃ ┃ 2 ┃
┃ │ ┃ │ ┃ │ ┃
┠─ ─┼─ ─╄━━━━━━━╈━━━━━━━╇━━━━━━━╅─ ─┨
┃ ┃ ┃ 3 ┃
┃ │ │ ┃ │ ┃ ┃
┣━━━━━━━┿━━━━━━━┿━━━━━━━╉─ ─┼─ ─╄━━━━━━━┫
┃ 3 ┃ 5 1 ┃
┃ │ │ ┃ │ │ ┃
┗━━━━━━━┷━━━━━━━┷━━━━━━━┻━━━━━━━┷━━━━━━━┷━━━━━━━┛

Still some confusion (what is that sole small standing │ doing there?) - then I tried another outline and I think I have a slight preference for the one below:

┏━━━━━━━┯━━━━━━━┳━━━━━━━┯━━━━━━━┳━━━━━━━┯━━━━━━━┓
┃ 5 ┃ 4 ┃ ┃
┃ ┃ ┃ ┃
┠─ ─┼─ ─╂─ ─┼─ ─╄━━━━━━━╅─ ─┨
┃ ┃ ┃ ┃
┃ ┃ ┃ ┃
┠─ ─╆━━━━━━━╇━━━━━━━┿━━━━━━━╈━━━━━━━╉─ ─┨
┃ ┃ 5 ┃ ┃ ┃
┃ ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃
┣━━━━━━━╇━━━━━━━╅─ ─┼─ ─╂─ ─╄━━━━━━━┫
┃ 1 ┃ ┃ 2 ┃
┃ ┃ ┃ ┃
┠─ ─┼─ ─╄━━━━━━━╈━━━━━━━╇━━━━━━━╅─ ─┨
┃ ┃ ┃ 3 ┃
┃ ┃ ┃ ┃
┣━━━━━━━┿━━━━━━━┿━━━━━━━╉─ ─┼─ ─╄━━━━━━━┫
┃ 3 ┃ 5 1 ┃
┃ ┃ ┃
┗━━━━━━━┷━━━━━━━┷━━━━━━━┻━━━━━━━┷━━━━━━━┷━━━━━━━┛

Once you know what the grid and the squares (should) look like, I think this outline is a better design to distinguish areas.

In addition, I have an idea for the outline of a new puzzle, using this type of design, although it's still in its very early stages. biggrin

Adri
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Adri,

That outline is definitely an easier design to follow, given the character-set constraints you're fighting!

I'm like Mark when it moves to a spreadsheet grid for solving, though -- I use cell colours for grouping (which you can't do here, but even if you could it might be difficult to pick colours that everyone could tell apart!)

Again, thanks for your efforts to make things easy to follow. And I await the new puzzle type with a mixture of interest and trepidation :-)

Cheers - Al.
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