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Thread: New Beta Test - January 12, 2017 [ Issues Thread ] |
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keithhenry
Ace Cruncher Senile old farts of the world ....uh.....uh..... nevermind Joined: Nov 18, 2004 Post Count: 18665 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I'm only getting 8 at a time - 8 cores 8 tasks? - it's like pulling teeth - very hard to get them! like HSTB - I can't seem to get enough of them! Yes, you can only get pne beta task per core/thread. As those finish, you can get another beta to run so having your machines ask for new work as soon as completed work is returned improves your odds. BOINC normally does that but you want to be sure it asks for more work often if it doesn't get new work on returning completed work. Most betas tend to be small so you normally don't get many unless the beta is for a new project like in this case. Getting betas, when they exist, is actually much easier than getting HSTB work. |
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uplinger
Former World Community Grid Tech Joined: May 23, 2005 Post Count: 3952 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I'm only getting 8 at a time - 8 cores 8 tasks? - it's like pulling teeth - very hard to get them! like HSTB - I can't seem to get enough of them! Yes, you can only get pne beta task per core/thread. As those finish, you can get another beta to run so having your machines ask for new work as soon as completed work is returned improves your odds. BOINC normally does that but you want to be sure it asks for more work often if it doesn't get new work on returning completed work. Most betas tend to be small so you normally don't get many unless the beta is for a new project like in this case. Getting betas, when they exist, is actually much easier than getting HSTB work. keithhenry's explanation is correct as well as what to do to better your odds. A bit of history on why we limit it to one per core. We had some hosts in the past that would be set to download work for 3+ day buffer. With beta tasks being horribly estimated (probably my fault and a degree of unknown new science), this was allowing hosts to download 100's of workunits at a time. This would do 2 things: 1. Slow down the rate at which beta results were returned, if a buffer was filled with beta for 3 days, odds were we wouldn't see it for 4-5 days back or not at all. Which caused us to wait for the resend to be sent out...you can see how this starts to take too long. 2. The amount of different hosts betas were being operated on was not a great selection of machines. If a host downloads 100 of a total of 1000 beta work units, then 1 type/OS was tested on 1/10th of the results. So the rule of 1 core per result at a time was put into place. Thanks for your understanding and help on the BETA test! -Uplinger |
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Seoulpowergrid
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Apr 12, 2013 Post Count: 818 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Thanks for the explanation mate.
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Has the beta test ended - I haven't been able to snag any, since I got this last one:
BETA_ SRA1_ 0000000_ Bct-A_ 9635_ 1-- M-09 Valid 1/17/17 01:21:07 1/17/17 02:23:41 0.71 / 0.75 18.6 / 18.2 |
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PMH_UK
Veteran Cruncher UK Joined: Apr 26, 2007 Post Count: 774 Status: Recently Active Project Badges:
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Has the beta test ended - I haven't been able to snag any, since I got this last one: BETA_ SRA1_ 0000000_ Bct-A_ 9635_ 1-- M-09 Valid 1/17/17 01:21:07 1/17/17 02:23:41 0.71 / 0.75 18.6 / 18.2 Looks like it, at least for this batch, my last new was BETA_ SRA1_ 0000000_ Bct-A_ 99321_ 1-- at 1/17/17 00:52:24 I have only had 2 re-sends since then. If I read the announcement right, there should be another batch of 100,000. Once these are analysed, more in further rounds. Paul.
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armstrdj
Former World Community Grid Tech Joined: Oct 21, 2004 Post Count: 695 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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The second batch was just loaded and new workunits should be flowing now.
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pvh513
Senior Cruncher Joined: Feb 26, 2011 Post Count: 260 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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From the first batch I got a total of 451 WUs, of which 444 were valid and 7 are still in PV. Looking really good here...!
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etienne06
Advanced Cruncher France Joined: Jun 11, 2009 Post Count: 56 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Hi and happy new year everyone !
4 WU for me : - 2 OK - 1 waiting for validation - 1 in progress I let you know. |
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adriverhoef
Master Cruncher The Netherlands Joined: Apr 3, 2009 Post Count: 2177 Status: Recently Active Project Badges:
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Had one go invalid on Android 6.0.1: Result Name: BETA_ SRA1_ 0000000_ Bct-A_ 68132_ 1-- <core_client_version>7.4.53</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> stackdumps unavailable INFO: result number = 1 8388608 Here on my Android device, too: Result Log Result Name: BETA_ SRA1_ 0000000_ Bct-A_ 98482_ 3-- <core_client_version>7.4.41</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> INFO: result number = 3 8388608 INFO: No state to restore. Start from the beginning. [04:01:52] Number of tasks = 1 [04:01:52] Running task 0,CPU time at start of task 0 was 0.000000 [04:01:52] ./cmpd-0098482.pdbqt size = 21 5 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/beta24.Bct-A.pdbqt size = 4617 0 [08:17:04] Finished task #0 cpu time used 15111.720000 08:17:04 (2854): called boinc_finish(0) </stderr_txt> ]]> ... and all my wingmen are also running into Invalid: Workunit Status Project Name: Beta Created: 01/17/2017 00:42:12 Name: BETA_SRA1_0000000_Bct-A_98482 Minimum Quorum: 1 Replication: 5 BETA_SRA1_0000000_Bct-A_98482_4-- Android 3.4.0-4508315 (Android 5.0.1) 705 Invalid To compare, one that went Valid: Result Log Result Name: BETA_ SRA1_ 0000000_ Bct-A_ 27887_ 1-- <core_client_version>7.4.41</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> INFO: result number = 1 8388608 INFO: No state to restore. Start from the beginning. [00:47:23] Number of tasks = 1 [00:47:23] Running task 0,CPU time at start of task 0 was 0.000000 [00:47:23] ./cmpd-0027887.pdbqt size = 37 9 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/beta24.Bct-A.pdbqt size = 4617 0 INFO: result number = 1 8388608 [11:23:18] Number of tasks = 1 [11:23:18] Running task 0,CPU time at start of task 0 was 0.000000 [11:23:18] ./cmpd-0027887.pdbqt size = 37 9 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/beta24.Bct-A.pdbqt size = 4617 0 [14:06:21] Finished task #0 cpu time used 25694.560000 14:06:21 (7018): called boinc_finish(0) </stderr_txt> ]]> Workunit Status Project Name: Beta Created: 01/14/2017 10:11:36 Name: BETA_SRA1_0000000_Bct-A_27887 Minimum Quorum: 2 Replication: 2 BETA_SRA1_0000000_Bct-A_27887_1-- Android 3.4.5 (Android 4.2.2) 705 Valid [Edit 1 times, last edit by adriverhoef at Jan 18, 2017 12:45:32 PM] |
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Former Member
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I have had 4 go invalid on various android devices, as have my wingmen (some have 4 invalids per WU). A sample message from one is:
Result Name: BETA_ SRA1_ 0000000_ Bct-A_ 98087_ 0-- <core_client_version>7.4.43</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> INFO: result number = 0 8388608 INFO: No state to restore. Start from the beginning. [10:43:35] Number of tasks = 1 [10:43:35] Running task 0,CPU time at start of task 0 was 0.000000 [10:43:35] ./cmpd-0098087.pdbqt size = 21 3 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/beta24.Bct-A.pdbqt size = 4617 0 [12:30:06] Finished task #0 cpu time used 6390.915000 12:30:06 (3871): called boinc_finish(0) </stderr_txt> |
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