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ryan222h
Senior Cruncher Joined: Sep 4, 2006 Post Count: 425 Status: Offline |
Just a shot in the dark, but what how is the machine networked? Are you using wireless or LAN? I've had some irregularities using wireless on my machines.
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Movieman
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Sep 9, 2006 Post Count: 1042 Status: Offline |
LOl, I can't figure out what's going on..
----------------------------------------I go and check and #7 overall so far today.. http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=hosts&proj=bwcg&sort=last Machine is hard wired on a gigabit network on a 30/15mbit FIOS line.. Joe: No way to tell what WU is on what core..Cores are fine, tested on other benchmarks ![]() [Edit 2 times, last edit by Movieman at Oct 29, 2013 6:51:00 PM] |
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Movieman
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Sgt.Joe
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OK, I am out of suggestions for the moment. Blame the points server.
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Movieman
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Finished up at number 6 today..app 217,000 WCG points..
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JmBoullier
Former Community Advisor Normandy - France Joined: Jan 26, 2007 Post Count: 3715 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Hi Movieman!
----------------------------------------When I look at the Results page that you provided in your second message everything looks consistent with what I see for my own results as far as credits per WU are concerned. However I am shocked when I look at your CPU times: while the faah..... CPU time is close to what I get with my old Q6600 slightly overclocked at 2.88 all your FAHV..... results are awfully slow! While my faah..... are usually in the 2.5-3 hours range like yours the majority of my FAHV..... are in a 0.85-1.5 range, with a few up to 2 hours and only a handful between 2 and 2.6 hours... Considering the beasts you are usually implementing the CPU times of your FAHV..... look weird. PS: I am using BOINC 7.0.27 under Ubuntu 13.04 (but no personal intention to harass you with Linux ![]() |
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Ingleside
Veteran Cruncher Norway Joined: Nov 19, 2005 Post Count: 974 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
However I am shocked when I look at your CPU times: while the faah..... CPU time is close to what I get with my old Q6600 slightly overclocked at 2.88 all your FAHV..... results are awfully slow! While my faah..... are usually in the 2.5-3 hours range like yours the majority of my FAHV..... are in a 0.85-1.5 range, with a few up to 2 hours and only a handful between 2 and 2.6 hours... A computer having larger cpu-times due to HT is expected, since it's not a real core worse-case the cpu-times are doubled compared to a "real" cpu. On top of this trying to compare to Linux isn't always a good idea, since atleast some of WCG's applications clearly is using a sub-standard windows-compiler or less-than-optimal compiler-choises. But, while comparing between OS/applications isn't neccessarily telling if where's a problem somewhere, it's still possible to compare within the same OS/application but across wu-series. From Movieman's few reported results, he's got some FAHV* around 2 hours, but suddenly a large jump to 4-5 hours for the FAHV*disulfide-wu's. Are other crunchers seeing a significant increase in cpu-times for these wu's, or is it only the E5-2697 this is happening with? If other crunchers doesn't see similar increases in cpu-times it points to a computer-problem and not a crediting-problem. edit - taking a quick look on the E5-2697's specifications, apparently the memory is 4-channel DDR3-1866 as top speed and 59.7 GB/s max memory-bandwidth. The old i7-920 on the other hand was 3-channel DDR3-1066 with 25.6 GB/s memory-bandwidth. Hitting the i7-920's memory-bandwidth is easily accomplished by running other projects than WCG, a good benchmark is Climateprediction.net (but unfortunately they've not got any available Hadam3p-models at the moment). With the E5-2697 having 3x as many cores but only roughly 2x the memory-bandwidth, it's possible you're hitting the limit also with WCG and everything goes slower. It's possible different wu-series with the same application is more memory-demanding than other wu-series so it didn't show-up the first couple of days. ![]() "I make so many mistakes. But then just think of all the mistakes I don't make, although I might." [Edit 1 times, last edit by Ingleside at Oct 30, 2013 10:24:57 AM] |
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Sgt.Joe
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On top of this trying to compare to Linux isn't always a good idea, since atleast some of WCG's applications clearly is using a sub-standard windows-compiler or less-than-optimal compiler-choises. I think Ingleside is dead on correct here. Wth the VINA units (FAHV), Linux is much more efficient and there is no pont in comparing across OS's. That being said, I have noticed the FAHV units varying in length from less than an hour for some series up to 2.5 hours for other series (Linux XEON E5410). Any comparisons need to be with other Windows machines. Cheers
Sgt. Joe
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JmBoullier
Former Community Advisor Normandy - France Joined: Jan 26, 2007 Post Count: 3715 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Sorry for not providing more than I have.
----------------------------------------![]() Again, comparing to what I usually get I don't see a crediting problem in Movieman's results page example. Therefore, without comparing between OSs or hardware architectures, if Movieman has suddenly got half the points per day he usually got I would suggest that - - either some of his WUs have suddenly lasted more than usual for whatever reasons - or he has had a bunch of them put in Pending Validation or Verification status but then he should have had them validated later and informed us - or worse many have been declared Invalid or Error and have been definitely lost, although I doubt that he would have not noticed it. That's all I can say from my chair, sorry again. ![]() Edit: I forgot the case that Movieman could have been outrageously and consistently overcredited before the page he has shown us, but I doubt it even more. ![]() ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by JmBoullier at Oct 30, 2013 11:27:56 AM] |
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JmBoullier
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I just notice now that the title of this thread has been edited with "Resolved".
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