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Former Member
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i have been advertising these projects whenever i get a chance, but how are the actual numbers? say for the last 6 months.
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gomeyer
Senior Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 11, 2008 Post Count: 161 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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The site boincstats.com has graph data going back 60 days. They show a gradual decline in numbers of active users. However the good news is that, while the number of active host computers initially dipped, the numbers have recovered to their 60 day high.
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gb009761
Master Cruncher Scotland Joined: Apr 6, 2005 Post Count: 2977 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Personally (without looking at any statistical data), I wouldn't be too surprised to see the numbers taking a slight dip - as, after all, there hasn't been any new projects start recently (okay, it could be argued that HCC GPU is new, but not quite in the same league as a brand new project). The last project to start (and which, has already finished), was CFSW last April.
----------------------------------------Also (and I know that this has been covered numerous times already), topping out on all the badges at Sapphire (2 CPU years of crunching/active project) doesn't take long/much effort nowadays for the really 'big hitters' to achieve. Okay, it gives us 'smaller guys' a chance to reach such heady hights as the Sapphire badges, but there's not a whole bunch of incentive for those who've already got there to stick around.  [Edit 1 times, last edit by gb009761 at Feb 8, 2013 1:24:34 PM] |
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Hypernova
Master Cruncher Audaces Fortuna Juvat ! Vaud - Switzerland Joined: Dec 16, 2008 Post Count: 1908 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Personally (without looking at any statistical data), I wouldn't be too surprised to see the numbers taking a slight dip - as, after all, there hasn't been any new projects start recently (okay, it could be argued that HCC GPU is new, but not quite in the same league as a brand new project). The last project to start (and which, has already finished), was CFSW last April. Also (and I know that this has been covered numerous times already), topping out on all the badges at Sapphire (2 CPU years of crunching/active project) doesn't take long/much effort nowadays for the really 'big hitters' to achieve. Okay, it gives us 'smaller guys' a chance to reach such heady hights as the Sapphire badges, but there's not a whole bunch of incentive for those who've already got there to stick around. As I already posted it in another thread we should look at the way GPUGrid handled the badge issue. They have 20 badges that cover up to 10 Billion boinc points or 70 billion WCG points. We may scale it differently as WCG is a multiproject CPU grid and not a single project (you do not have separate scoring per project) GPU grid but the idea is there. At WCG badges are based on runtime and per project and not points. But whatever the measurement unit you take the objective is that you have always in front of you another badge to keep you motivated. I think that keeping runtime as a unit for badges is a good thing in a grid that mixes CPU and GPU. In this way you have badges for projects and points for the global ranking, it is the right approach. I would have loved to have additional badges say at 5, 10, 25, 50, 75, 100 years for example. Some projects will not last long enough for certain badges but others yes. An additional motivation for higher runtime badges is that it will reduce the impact of points ranking and equilibrate the distribution of crunching power between GPU and CPU projects.  |
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zcommodore
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Personal opinion here but given the status of the PC market in general I wouldn't be surprised if the overall numbers don't start to drop slowly over time. With many of the general public moving away from PCs and using tablets and smart phones, there just aren't as many PC users to attract into doing number crunching. I don't know if it would make sense to offer an app for something like this (has anyone even thought about it and I'm just completely out of the loop?) given the fact that battery power only lasts so long and number crunching is rather power intensive.
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BladeD
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Nov 17, 2004 Post Count: 28976 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Personal opinion here but given the status of the PC market in general I wouldn't be surprised if the overall numbers don't start to drop slowly over time. With many of the general public moving away from PCs and using tablets and smart phones, there just aren't as many PC users to attract into doing number crunching. I don't know if it would make sense to offer an app for something like this (has anyone even thought about it and I'm just completely out of the loop?) given the fact that battery power only lasts so long and number crunching is rather power intensive. That just means their PCs can do more crunching!!! For Xmas my daughter get a tablet for her younger son, but a PC for the older one for school work. |
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Former Member
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I guess one can expect that the number of contributors, like the number of depositors in a bank -- is a closely-guarded secret. The reason for that is that there is something about those numbers that ties closely with viability or prospects of continued viability.
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Ingleside
Veteran Cruncher Norway Joined: Nov 19, 2005 Post Count: 974 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I guess one can expect that the number of contributors, like the number of depositors in a bank -- is a closely-guarded secret. The reason for that is that there is something about those numbers that ties closely with viability or prospects of continued viability. Uhm, except during the time-of-day (like now) when the stats-update is running, #total users is clearly shown on WCG's own stats-pages. As for #active users and #active computers, the external stats-sites like Boincstats shows this info. How active is defined is different from one stats-site to another, it can example be defined based on RAC > limit.  "I make so many mistakes. But then just think of all the mistakes I don't make, although I might." |
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Former Member
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Hello Ingleside
----------------------------------------Reference: Ingleside [Feb 10, 2013 2:03:44 AM] post Thanks for the response. I understood the OP's reference to 'contributors' as to mean those that are announced as 'partners' by the WCG-Admin. In that understanding, I have a subjective assessment that the numbers are decreasing lately in that there seems to be fewer announcement these days of such 'partners'. I don't keep tabs of those 'contributors' so I don't know how the numbers there stack up, but as I've indicated, I do feel the numbers there are decreasing. ; ; andzgridPost#933 ; [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Feb 10, 2013 2:30:04 AM] |
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Ingleside
Veteran Cruncher Norway Joined: Nov 19, 2005 Post Count: 974 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I understood the OP's reference to 'contributors' as to mean those that are announced as 'partners' by the WCG-Admin. In that understanding, I have a subjective assessment that the numbers are decreasing lately in that there seems to be fewer announcement these days of such 'partners'. I don't keep tabs of those 'contributors' so I don't know how the numbers there stack up, but as I've indicated, I do feel the numbers there are decreasing. It's 454 partners, and AFAIK where's only a mentioning of partners if WCG gets a new partner. Not sure if #partners have ever decreased... As for contributors, my understanding is he meant everyone what's contributing their cpu- and/or gpu-resources by running tasks for WCG. While WCG mostly calls these for members another often-used (atleast on these forums) is users. If you looks on other projects, Folding@home calls everyone for donors, while other projects like SETI@home also have donors but this means the people what's donated money and/or hardware to the project. "I make so many mistakes. But then just think of all the mistakes I don't make, although I might." |
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