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anhhai
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Mar 22, 2005 Post Count: 839 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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kateiacy, I set my laptop to run at 70%, but sometimes it does get hot if I am running an application that also uses a lot of CPU. My solution is to just unplug the laptop for a few minutes to let it cool off. Unplugging the laptop (and letting it run on battery) will usually force the system to reduce power to the CPU (mine reduce it down to about 1/3 performance). Strange this is you still get the runtime, so the beta will actually take longer to finish This problem is specific to these betas. The two laptops run at reasonable temperatures when set to 60% CPU usage on lots of other WCG sciences. With these WUs, they go to 100% usage(as shown in "top") and the temperature goes too high. I also couldn't get them to suspend. THey'd keep running unless I shut down BOINC. These things happened on two different laptops, one running Ubuntu 10.04 and the other running Ubuntu 11.04. I've never had similar problems on either laptop. I think we need to warn crunchers about this. kateiacy, My laptop is also running 100% of the time now due to the beta, but I don't think you understand. If you just unplug the power (and let it run of the battery) the system will cool done. BOINC will still use 100% of the CPU, but the CPU speed will just slow down (the bios reduces power to the CPU). Unplug it for 5 mins and you will see the difference in temperature.  |
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mfbabb2
Senior Cruncher USA Joined: Feb 18, 2011 Post Count: 361 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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My HP laptop is running 2 Betas @ 100% and my temps are 66 - 70 C.
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JmBoullier
Former Community Advisor Normandy - France Joined: Jan 26, 2007 Post Count: 3715 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Not sure Beta's are really suited to laptops anyway, If WUs have to run on laptops when in production it is necessary that laptops run beta WUs too. Imagine that this very annoying problem of WUs not respecting the CPU throttle had not been discovered before moving to production and that a few laptops got damaged... What is mandatory though is that members never run betas without keeping an eye on their machines, whether laptops or desktops. |
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anhhai
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Mar 22, 2005 Post Count: 839 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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JmBoullier,
----------------------------------------I have to admit, if kateiacy didn't say anything, i wouldn't of noticed that the betas were running at 100% even with CPU throttle set to 70% and I have been setting in front of my laptop almost all day. I did notice it got a little warm, so I just unplugged the power cord for a few minutes. I also reduced it down to 60% thinking I was running too many apps that also needed the CPU to help keep it cool. kateiacy, just more observant then me I guess. |
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mfbabb2
Senior Cruncher USA Joined: Feb 18, 2011 Post Count: 361 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I also confirm that WUs apparently keep running even when Boinc is Suspended (not just the task). Killing and restarting the Boinc Manager seems to clear it though.
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Murphy
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nanoprobe
Master Cruncher Classified Joined: Aug 29, 2008 Post Count: 2998 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Are we done? Haven't seen any new betas in 2 hours.
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mfbabb2
Senior Cruncher USA Joined: Feb 18, 2011 Post Count: 361 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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First of my Betas finished and validated:
----------------------------------------Result Log Result Name: BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 0655_ 1-- <core_client_version>6.12.33</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> INFO: No state to restore. Start from the beginning. [14:44:33] Number of tasks = 8 [14:44:33] Starting job 0,CPU time is 0.000000. [14:44:33] ZINC04943462.pdbqt size = 26 6 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/beta13.target_ace.pdbqt size = 4660 0 [15:25:59] Finished Job #0 cpu time used 2189.390625 [15:25:59] Starting job 1,CPU time is 2189.390625. [15:26:00] ZINC04943462.pdbqt size = 26 6 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/beta13.target_ace.pdbqt size = 4660 0 [16:41:59] Finished Job #1 cpu time used 2150.453125 [16:41:59] Starting job 2,CPU time is 4339.843750. [16:41:59] ZINC04943462.pdbqt size = 26 6 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/beta13.target_ace.pdbqt size = 4660 0 [17:31:04] Finished Job #2 cpu time used 2169.687500 [17:31:04] Starting job 3,CPU time is 6509.531250. [17:31:05] ZINC04943462.pdbqt size = 26 6 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/beta13.target_ace.pdbqt size = 4660 0 [18:12:56] Finished Job #3 cpu time used 2174.093750 [18:12:56] Starting job 4,CPU time is 8683.625000. [18:12:57] ZINC04941482.pdbqt size = 23 5 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/beta13.target_ace.pdbqt size = 4660 0 [18:41:00] Finished Job #4 cpu time used 1541.156250 [18:41:00] Starting job 5,CPU time is 10224.781250. [18:41:01] ZINC04941482.pdbqt size = 23 5 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/beta13.target_ace.pdbqt size = 4660 0 [19:12:37] Finished Job #5 cpu time used 1542.890625 [19:12:37] Starting job 6,CPU time is 11767.671875. [19:12:38] ZINC04941482.pdbqt size = 23 5 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/beta13.target_ace.pdbqt size = 4660 0 [19:43:44] Finished Job #6 cpu time used 1598.546875 [19:43:45] Starting job 7,CPU time is 13366.218750. [19:43:45] ZINC04941482.pdbqt size = 23 5 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/beta13.target_ace.pdbqt size = 4660 0 [20:14:11] Finished Job #7 cpu time used 1594.843750 20:14:12 (20660): called boinc_finish </stderr_txt> ]]> And this is one of the PowerFail WUs (currently PV): Result Log Result Name: BETA_ BETA_ ace80_ 0000000_ 2185_ 0-- <core_client_version>6.12.33</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> INFO: No state to restore. Start from the beginning. [17:08:10] Number of tasks = 8 [17:08:10] Starting job 0,CPU time is 0.000000. [17:08:10] ZINC04838789.pdbqt size = 19 4 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/beta13.target_ace.pdbqt size = 4660 0 [17:23:11] Finished Job #0 cpu time used 777.941533 [17:23:11] Starting job 1,CPU time is 777.941533. [17:23:11] ZINC04838789.pdbqt size = 19 4 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/beta13.target_ace.pdbqt size = 4660 0 [17:39:01] Finished Job #1 cpu time used 776.768159 [17:39:01] Starting job 2,CPU time is 1554.709692. [17:39:01] ZINC04838789.pdbqt size = 19 4 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/beta13.target_ace.pdbqt size = 4660 0 [17:54:04] Finished Job #2 cpu time used 780.475726 [17:54:04] Starting job 3,CPU time is 2335.185418. [17:54:04] ZINC04838789.pdbqt size = 19 4 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/beta13.target_ace.pdbqt size = 4660 0 [18:11:59] Finished Job #3 cpu time used 777.127031 [18:11:59] Starting job 4,CPU time is 3112.312449. [18:11:59] ZINC04806010.pdbqt size = 24 7 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/beta13.target_ace.pdbqt size = 4660 0 [18:43:10] Finished Job #4 cpu time used 1500.933816 [18:43:10] Starting job 5,CPU time is 4613.246265. [18:43:10] ZINC04806010.pdbqt size = 24 7 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/beta13.target_ace.pdbqt size = 4660 0 [19:14:55] Number of tasks = 8 [19:14:55] Starting job 5,CPU time is 4613.246265. [19:14:55] ZINC04806010.pdbqt size = 24 7 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/beta13.target_ace.pdbqt size = 4660 0 [19:41:55] Finished Job #5 cpu time used 1484.751021 [19:41:55] Starting job 6,CPU time is 6097.997286. [19:41:55] ZINC04806010.pdbqt size = 24 7 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/beta13.target_ace.pdbqt size = 4660 0 [20:07:43] Finished Job #6 cpu time used 1482.693371 [20:07:43] Starting job 7,CPU time is 7580.690657. [20:07:43] ZINC04806010.pdbqt size = 24 7 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/beta13.target_ace.pdbqt size = 4660 0 [20:32:50] Finished Job #7 cpu time used 1460.541410 called boinc_finish </stderr_txt> ]]>
Murphy
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BSD
Senior Cruncher Joined: Apr 27, 2011 Post Count: 224 Status: Offline |
Are we done? Haven't seen any new betas in 2 hours. I must of picked up the slack, that's when I got my two.  |
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kateiacy
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Jan 23, 2010 Post Count: 1027 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I also confirm that WUs apparently keep running even when Boinc is Suspended (not just the task). Killing and restarting the Boinc Manager seems to clear it though. Murphy, did this happen to you on Windows, or are you also running Linux? Also, I found that when I suspended a beta, not only did it not stop, but if I stopped and restarted BOINC, after a while the suspended task started running again. It still showed as suspended in BOINC manager, but "top" showed it running and consuming up to 100% of a core. :(  |
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mfbabb2
Senior Cruncher USA Joined: Feb 18, 2011 Post Count: 361 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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@kateiacy -- It was Windows Vista Home Premium (32).
----------------------------------------I just tried to suspend WU on my XP and it works correctly; however, just one WU running, the other already finished and returned.
Murphy
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