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roberto_sc
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Thanks for all the replies, that will give me a great start. As for the GPU vs CPU, I wanted what would give the most points/watts, no matter the project, since energy in my country is very expensive, IMO (about 0.50 USD/kWh). Talking about projects... do you guys know any project that works on demyelinating diseases?
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sk..
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A decent GPU will give you many more points per watt, but just not here at WCG - at least not yet, but soon enough. So, get the most energy efficient CPU for now (a Sandy Bridge) and worry about the GPU in the future; unless you especially want to crunch for an existing GPU project (GPUGrid, MilkyWay, Einstein...), all Boinc projects but with no connection to WCG.
----------------------------------------Myelin computer modeling research has been carried out and published by several research groups, but I'm not aware of any Distributed Computing projects specific to demyelination, myelin atrophy or MS research. This has been asked several times recently. DC tends to be large scale, so a DC project would have to be broad ranging. You would probably be talking about using a database of known structures and analyzing their binding potential to proteins known to be important in the generation or maintenance of myelin, building a binding affinity database of interesting molecules to study further. [Edit 1 times, last edit by skgiven at Jul 19, 2011 4:09:44 PM] |
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roberto_sc
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Ok
Do I need a HDD? It would run 24x7, so I thought I could have Ubuntu in a flash drive. Why do I need so much RAM memory? Will BOINC eat up all this? |
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roberto_sc
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About my previous post, I was thinking in something like this:
----------------------------------------http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=2203#17646 [Edit 1 times, last edit by roberto_sc at Jul 19, 2011 7:58:23 PM] |
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sk..
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Yeah, tested and ran with such versions a while back. So yes, you could setup Linux on a USB stick but with a new SB system you would be much better off with a HDD; the linux on a USB stick is really just an option for those that wish to separate their work environment from their crunching environment. There is no guarantee it’s going to work with your boards and it’s not exactly foolproof. A cheap HDD would be more reliable, easier to setup and it does not have to be expensive. You could also drop to 4GB RAM, but I would avoid 2GB for an 8 thread system, especially if your Linux version is heavy.
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Bearcat
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Just some food for thought. My suggestion is based on no OC but expandability. I had at most 5 systems crunching at one time during my time at WCG. Fun but time consuming. Am on my fourth build after selling two dual processor systems. Decided I want just two but with as many cores as possible. With two, if one goes down, your still crunching until it's fixed. Found out the hard way when I screwed up a bios update. If your not planning on OCing, my suggestion is get a dual socket motherboard. Start with one processor, or fill both if you can afford it. Make sure you have at least one PCI E slot for a nice GPU to crunch a GPU project if/when they come available for WCG. Or if you want to try some of the other projects that do use GPU's.
----------------------------------------For single processor systems, sandy bridge is the way to go. I prefer the west mere xeon processors, quad or hex. Not real cheap depending on the speed you want. As for OS, I run dual boot ubuntu 64 and win7. Some projects have in the past run on one OS. This way I can switch when needed. The cheapest hex xeon at new egg is just under 600 for a 2.4ghz. Two of these will get you 12 cores/24 threads. May not be the speediest but can get allot of wu's crunched with one box. You can change out later with bigger ones as the prices drop since the newer xeons are coming out in the near future. Again, no OCing with my suggestions. There is a motherboard that will let you OC a dual processor setup. That is a EVGA board. You would have to ask folks who have this setup how it's working out as I don't use this board. Allot depends on how much you want to get into crunching, electricity usage, etc. Plenty of folks here with different setups to ask questions. Good luck on your decision and crunch on.
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KerSamson
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Hi
----------------------------------------Regarding the RAM needs: Linux (Ubuntu) is much more efficient than Windows. For example, on a 6 cores system, Windows requires around 750 MB/CEP2 WU. Linux is able to compute similar CEP2 WUs with an average use of less than 300 MB/WU. Currently, using Windows you should plan at least 4 GB for a quad (without HT), i.e. between 6 and 8 GB RAM if you run a quad with Hyper Threading (HT). On the same host, 4 GB should be sufficient using Linux. With Linux, "less is more" - less RAM for more points !!! Yves |
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nanoprobe
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Think I'm getting around 35K WCG Points per day from an i7-2600K on Ubuntu. Forget what the speed is though (and don't want to go to the BIOS to find out). More like 25K per day on Win x64 for an i7-2600 at 3.6GHz. Open a terminal window and type more /proc/cpuinfo That should give you your processor speed.
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nanoprobe
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Hi Regarding the RAM needs: Linux (Ubuntu) is much more efficient than Windows. For example, on a 6 cores system, Windows requires around 750 MB/CEP2 WU. Linux is able to compute similar CEP2 WUs with an average use of less than 300 MB/WU. Currently, using Windows you should plan at least 4 GB for a quad (without HT), i.e. between 6 and 8 GB RAM if you run a quad with Hyper Threading (HT). On the same host, 4 GB should be sufficient using Linux. With Linux, "less is more" - less RAM for more points !!! Yves FWIW I run numerous Intel i7s with HT enabled on 4GB of ram and have no issues. Would 8GB be better? Maybe. I do know that ram speeds above 1333 MHz make no measurable difference running WCG projects. Linux does use less ram. Linux will also process more WUs than Windows but it will award less points than Windows.
In 1969 I took an oath to defend and protect the U S Constitution against all enemies, both foreign and Domestic. There was no expiration date.
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KerSamson
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Linux does use less ram. Linux will also process more WUs than Windows but it will award less points than Windows. Not exactly true. Running Linux, the earned credit for a WU is less than running Windows. But ... since the host will compute more WUs under Linux than under Windows, the same host will earn more credit, even if the "more" is not "many". Yves |
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