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gb077492
Advanced Cruncher Joined: Dec 24, 2004 Post Count: 96 Status: Offline |
It's just stupid that you have to manually restart boinc regularly having edited the values to have any chance of betas or CEP2. Ah, now I understand. Thanks Kremmen! However, I continue to believe that the calculations that BOINC uses for bandwidth are erroneous and, if and when CEP2 goes into production on windoze, a number of machines which would otherwise be more than capable of processing the units will be excluded. Still, it's not a zero-sum game and I'm on the wrong side of the fence, so I'm only using a water-pistol and not a bazooka.  |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
Got my usual problem of reporting insufficient bandwidth since I've been doing nothing but C4CW for ages. How does it get it so wrong (and what can I tweak?). Same for me. The only machine of mine which tried to get one when they were available was denied for insufficient bandwidth. It's just stupid that you have to manually restart boinc regularly having edited the values to have any chance of betas or CEP2. Doubt v.v. Beta that something can be done about that. CEP2 in production with *exclusive* selection of this science was understood by me to have done away with the bandwidth restriction (post uplinger or knreed). Now that multi-cores get only 1 at the time, these members have no option but to select at least 1 other science, the exclusivity rule needs adjustment, so is my opinion.
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Sekerob
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And on the positive side, the wingman was fast too and handed a bonus:
----------------------------------------BETA_ E200515_ 466_ A.24.C19H16N2SSi2.31.4.set1d06_ 1-- 633 Valid 10/22/10 19:03:52 10/23/10 07:01:50 11.21 114.4 / 143.1 < moi BETA_ E200515_ 466_ A.24.C19H16N2SSi2.31.4.set1d06_ 0-- 633 Valid 10/22/10 19:03:43 10/23/10 12:45:16 7.92 171.8 / 143.1 Watching my Linux, a good median could be n / cores at 2. This way at least 1 CEP2 task is likely to run at any one time on a quad. The Beta task with 2 concurrent CEP2 jobs at any one time completed in half of the normal time, the _4 output file size though near identical at 22.9MB. The Gap was again half of what it was before. (will paste in the BOINCTasks history for documentation.) BETA_ E200515_ 069_ A.25.C21H14N2S2.158.4.set1d06_ 1-- 633 Valid 10/22/10 19:41:51 10/23/10 14:29:07 4.05 73.3 / 58.2 < Moi BETA_ E200515_ 069_ A.25.C21H14N2S2.158.4.set1d06_ 0-- 633 Valid 10/22/10 19:41:30 10/23/10 06:39:10 2.92 43.2 / 58.2 hmmm, both have identical logs with old CEP2 format with all the bells and an RC = 0x100 at the end of the 2.5 hour lasting job 13.
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Dataman
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It was a good BETA test for me. Even the credits were better (must be due to the full moon
---------------------------------------- ) So let's light the fuse and launch this bird into production! Cheers and good morning.    |
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nasher
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Dec 2, 2005 Post Count: 1422 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Lassies and Lads, lets not forget that this IS an Opt-In science. I'm sure WCG works to accommodate as many as possible, but eventually somewhere the line has to be drawn and the specs locked in. If this work does eat resources to the point of un-usablity tweak the client settings to only run them when a device is idle. Those who have months of experience on Linux (moi for instance), have not found it to be excessive and the latest beta on my 4 year old duo centrino is also quite unobtrusive... so if P4's cant keep up or whatever device nasher is referring to, than that is a pity, but has to be. sorry i was commenting that it was eating up the resources and was slowing down normal operation of the computer.. it was a comment to let people know about it. I was commenting cause some people don't want there system to slow down and that is one of the biggest reasons i have lost people from willing to do Distributed Computing. I don't want people quitting DC cause they have a bad experience so i was commenting cause i think its a non desirable effect  |
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Sekerob
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You got me there... clarified. ;-)
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nanoprobe
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Both of mine finished without errors.
----------------------------------------BETA_ E200515_ 287_ A.25.C20H14N2OSSi.113.2.set1d06_ 1-- 633 Valid 10/22/10 20:00:09 10/23/10 09:18:50 5.70 90.5 / 103.0 BETA_ E200515_ 287_ A.25.C20H14N2OSSi.113.2.set1d06_ 0-- 633 Valid 10/22/10 19:59:46 10/23/10 08:12:56 5.44 115.6 / 103.0<-me. Bonus. This one ran on a usb drive/quad  BETA_ E200515_ 027_ A.24.C20H14N2SSe.98.4.set1d06_ 1-- 633 Valid 10/22/10 18:48:27 10/23/10 12:08:27 8.86 138.0 / 113.6<-me. This one ran on an i7 BETA_ E200515_ 027_ A.24.C20H14N2SSe.98.4.set1d06_ 0-- 633 Valid 10/22/10 18:48:18 10/23/10 01:27:06 5.88 89.2 / 113.6 FWIW none of my CEP2 only crunchers received any betas.
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I initially setup one Profile to only run Betas but I had to select another project, so I chose a non-running project. One system on that profile downloaded a task, and it immediately failed when it started a while later (when I suspended other tasks to allow it to run). Wonder if the failure was related to the changes made to condition of running the Betas (must run other projects)? The change was made server side after several hundred Beta releases.
----------------------------------------On the same system and after I changed the profile, Boinc later told me bandwidth was too slow, (106Kbps only and 130Kbps needed, or similar). The system has several Mbps download, but then thats to UK servers and takes no account of hops/ping/contention/error rate... [Edit 1 times, last edit by skgiven at Oct 23, 2010 6:19:07 PM] |
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Zanth
Advanced Cruncher USA Joined: Aug 18, 2008 Post Count: 88 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I got a few on different machines, the two on my quicker machines seemed to complete fairly quickly with no evident problems. My netbook is a bit slower. ;)
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gb077492
Advanced Cruncher Joined: Dec 24, 2004 Post Count: 96 Status: Offline |
On the same system and after I changed the profile, Boinc later told me bandwidth was too slow, (106Kbps only and 130Kbps needed, or similar). The system has several Mbps download, but then thats to UK servers and takes no account of hops/ping/contention/error rate... Remarkably similar numbers to what I'm seeing, and my home system can easily stream HD video which requires 3000kbps. Maybe it's because we're in the UK? |
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