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NightBlade
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@Sekerob can you explain why running four at once is not ideal (again)? I have a quad core and this is definitely the most interesting WCG project for me.
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Former Member
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Best is to discuss BETA testing in the Beta Support forum... Hi Sekerob,As to dkt not getting any, well you have to be enrolled of course in BETA, choose CEP2 itself is irrelevant, and meet the system requirements and happening to ask for work when there are actually some in the hopper slots.... As to specifying BETA testing, I have always specified this via the Beta Testing navigation. I do not do anything special to get Beta WUs. As I have read in the Beta Support forum, it appears that more than one beta is assigned for each core. For example, What I can say from my experience is that 4 GBs are enough for a Hexacore. I ran 6 betas simultaneously on my machine. TaskManager only reported 43%, but taskmanager often only reports crap. I use a 64 Bit system, though. and Another reason could be an overloaded HardDisk, which isn't a problem in my case either as I do use a SSD. Twenty beta for CEP2. Some are validated, some in PV kail and some still running. If what you say about one beta per core is true, doea all of this make sense? I believe there are other entries for a large number of betas being received.I noticed that 2 WU used more than 12h cpu time (one for sure was about 17h30) and there are shown in PV with 12h! 5h30 our lost for my gold badge. angry |
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Former Member
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Here is another one from CEP2 beta for windows - Version 6.25
----------------------------------------being i have 5 cores total when i managed to return my first round i got more and that really supprised me... right now i am working on 4 have 4 valid and 3 in PV. obviously there are not that many people who run beta on windows. any idea how many results left? IE am i expecting round 3 of beta's or are we to the waiting on stragglers and repair wu's? When he says "obviously there are not that many people who run beta on windows", it sounds like he is saying that the betas should have been assigned to others. From your previous response, I would think the only reason I am not getting any of the betas is I have too much work in the que so I am not picking up beta work when it is available. I have 4 machines and a total of 12 cores. The last time I got a beta, I suspended work prior to the beta to allow it to run immediately. What is the best way to get BOINC to obtain any betas that are available. I would like to see something in Projects or Tasks, or in Advanced, to say to get any betas that may be available. [Edit 2 times, last edit by Former Member at Sep 19, 2010 4:27:26 AM] |
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codes
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Are there any guesses as to why I have not gotten any betas to run? My experience for this cep2 BETA go around I received 11 total on 3 of 4 Windows computers (two with two cores and other two single cores). The 4'th computer didn't get any cause it is a slower one and it was busy crunching other WUs. The previous c4cw BETAs in mid-August I received 1. And the c4cw BETAs prior to that in early August I received none. In total during my first year with WCG I've crunched 29 BETA WUs. My workunit cache is set to .25 day(s) so my pending work list is always low. If I had additional devices and more multi-core CPUs I'm sure I would of received more BETAs. Just luck of the draw I guess.  |
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Sekerob
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Received 20 of them. Some are in PV jail, some validated and some still running. dkt, This post does not specify how many devices/cores boulmontjj runs (nor do others), nor whether these were sequential or anything, just that he had 20. Yes?. SO, the rule for beta is that a device can have at any one time 1 BETA per core. Complete and report a beta and if there are still there ready in the hopper, the host could get a new one. Of course back filling is only when the cache total has fallen below the setting, same as normal production.
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Sekerob
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@Sekerob can you explain why running four at once is not ideal (again)? I have a quad core and this is definitely the most interesting WCG project for me. Running CEP2 on all cores (quads and up) results in poor efficiency for many. If in particular the disk i/o is bottlenecking lots of time the science is just waiting on storing and fetching information to compute **. It runs faultless for me on the Linux quad, but slow, particular when the system is in use when heavier rendering. In that, read up on the disk optimizations, some reporting to use SSD. There's already a good collection of threads to read up on experiences by Linux volunteers with CEP2. Regrettable BOINC does not have any optimization skills to combine different science tasks, so I micromanage when seeing more than 2 running, always having a second or third stock on hand. Running a mix profile obvious prevents running all core CEP2 most of the times. Anyway from a note dropped into my 400 TFL Machine thread it appears that the test was suspended... work distribution for Beta stopped to address issues seen. ** Yesterday stumbled on this article for W7 setting AHCI instead of IDE (if the device can) http://tweaks.com/articles/44119/improve-sata...convert-from-ide-to-ahci/ If the computer has the ability, apply at own risk! Mine has not in the BIOS, though is has a SATA drive with thin cable connector (not the huge fat flat know for IDE). No BIOS update available.
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X-Files 27
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** Yesterday stumbled on this article for W7 setting AHCI instead of IDE (if the device can) http://tweaks.com/articles/44119/improve-sata...convert-from-ide-to-ahci/ If the computer has the ability, apply at own risk! Mine has not in the BIOS, though is has a SATA drive with thin cable connector (not the huge fat flat know for IDE). No BIOS update available. AHCI is only available on Intel Chipset. The chipset make it complicated as the SATA drive runs on IDE mode (PATA). While in Nvidia's chipset, SATA is SATA, IDE is IDE. Also to add a note, IDE is the default settings. So If you didn't change anything in the bios, your SATA drive is running like your old Parallel ATA (PATA)   |
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Sekerob
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Ah yes, the Intel Chipset bit... think my mobo is VIA based. I've not been able to catch any CEP2 Beta after boot into W7-64 to see how it compares to Linux on the same machine. Not looked at speeds of the newest USB memory sticks. The Readyboost Scandisk stick I have ran for a longer period as BOINC drive and probably had ever so slightly more timeout related errors than running off HD. Going to look into SSD shortly... seems an answer an reduction of power use and noise: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-solid-state-drives-ssd,7717.html Quick read... need to update the Linux Kernel to 2.6.33 at least to use e.g. TRIM features. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1463870
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Somervillejudson@netscape.net
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Just finished 19 Beta WU's with only 2 going to 12 hour cut off. Hopefully issues Sekerob you mentioned earlier get fixed, but happy for more Beta's as want to make at least silver before end of year.
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rilian
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When will be MacOS beta test ?
----------------------------------------i know it is somewhere after win beta test, but maybe the date is already known...  ---------------------------------------- [Edit 2 times, last edit by rilian at Sep 20, 2010 12:50:48 AM] |
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