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Back when I got the quad for my daughter, I took a fairly simple approach that is a crude version of finding the right spot on the "knee". I was looking at the CPU and getting a quad was less than $150 more over a dual core. Double the crunching for much less than double the cost seemed sensible. I didn't get that fastest speed though and not the slowest either. When the additional cost to get the next faster chip was more than that to get to the current speed, I quit. I'm no hardware guru so I would spend far too much time trying to "max" things for the ideal cruncher. I got what I thought would be good enough. If getting the "better" version/level of something had a lower incremental cost over the lesser one, I got it to the extent the machine was still affordable. Someone who's really up on the technical side of hardware would be able to configure a machine that's closer to the "ideal" cruncher than I ever could. Trust yourself, ask a question or two if there's something you're unsure of. Most brands seem to have their websites set up to not let you configure a machine where everything won't work together. Beyond that, you'll get into the design your own from parts. There should be places where you can post what you're considering and get feedback from other "hardware gurus". You'll probably learn a few things doing that. Main thing is do what you're comfortable doing and relax. You'll always be able to get a better machine for less the longer you wait but at some point, you just have to commit. You'll end up with a decent machine.

As for Gerald's question, that's way beyond my level but he seems to end up with some pretty good crunchers. He will this time too. wink
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* for me, a fast CPU with as many affordable cores as possible, a respectable hard drive and, these days, at least 3MB if not 4MB of memory.

I think you mean 3GB if not 4GB. biggrin Windows can't even think about booting with 4MB. With the current versions of Windows, it seems 2GB is the practical minimum and for crunching you should add around .5 GB for each thread you're going to run. And finally, you need 64-bit Windows if you want to use more than 3GB plus a little (Windows 32-bit can't use the full 4GB). I suspect you know all this already....

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Oh, yes, I realize we're due for a new thread. I hope we can manage with this one until end of the month since we're so close to it already. It's kind of like nice big round numbers - new threads on month boundries. Yea, I'm weird like that. biggrin
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Watched a Minotar 4 rocket launch tonight from Vandenberg. Very Cool! cool
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Watched a Minotar 4 rocket launch tonight from Vandenberg. Very Cool! cool

You luck dog wink the only thing that launches up here are boats sad
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Cost is certainly an issue and when you look at the high cost difference between the mid and high speed i7's there is quite a difference. Currently building a new machine but a top of the line i7 is at least 3-4 k. Not cheep. Servers with dual processors almost seems to be a better choice.

Servers would be a good choice--I could build two 6 core AMD cheaper than Intel and crunch more than a processor with hyperthreading-- smile and so less expensive also overclocking on a Gigabyte MB is very easy-- winkI forgot to mention that 64 bit Ubuntu kicks Windows you know what and be able to use video card for GPU crunching--Still missing Dave Bell!!
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Good Sunday Morning MOT coffee coffee coffee Good morning Lurkers smile

I spent many years in a giant company that had two different brands of mainframe computers. It was funny to watch people that worked with one or the other brands, scoff and cast dispersions on the other brand and even on the people that worked with that brand. It amazed me that we all worked for the same company, had the same basic goals and objectives but were sharply divided between the "blue" and the "Grey" camps within the same floor of the same building. (IBM and Univac). It is amusing to watch this same sort of thing today between the AMD and Intel supporters. I guess it is just in human nature for people to somehow distinguish themselves from one another and then for some reason, declare superiority. It is as confusing as it is amusing.

Edit: Dubby, you might have a good idea. You thinking about building a 2 by 6 core AMD? What AMD processor(s) are you thinking about?
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Good Sunday Morning MOT coffee coffee coffee Good morning Lurkers smile

I spent many years in a giant company that had two different brands of mainframe computers. It was funny to watch people that worked with one or the other brands, scoff and cast dispersions on the other brand and even on the people that worked with that brand. It amazed me that we all worked for the same company, had the same basic goals and objectives but were sharply divided between the "blue" and the "Grey" camps within the same floor of the same building. (IBM and Univac). It is amusing to watch this same sort of thing today between the AMD and Intel supporters. I guess it is just in human nature for people to somehow distinguish themselves from one another and then for some reason, declare superiority. It is as confusing as it is amusing.

Edit: Dubby, you might have a good idea. You thinking about building a 2 by 6 core AMD? What AMD processor(s) are you thinking about?

This is what i think-- * Processor: AMD Phenom II X6 Black
* Model Number: 1090T
* Frequency: 3200
* Socket Type: AM3
* Power Wattage: 125
Processor AMD Phenomâ„¢ II X6 Black
Model 1090T
OPN Tray HDT90ZFBK6DGR
OPN PIB HDT90ZFBGRBOX
Operating Mode 32 Bit Yes
Operating Mode 64 Bit Yes
Revision E0
Core Speed (MHz) 3200
Voltages 1.125-1.40V
Max Temps (C) 62
Wattage 125 W
Virtualization Yes
L1 Cache Size (KB) 128
L1 Cache Count 6
L2 Cache Size (KB) 512
L2 Cache Count 6
L3 Cache Size (KB) 6144
CMOS 45nm SOI
Socket AM3
AMD Business Class No
Black Edition Yes
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MyOnlineTeam Daily Statistics for 09/26 - All Members:

Team rank movement report
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Prior New Current
Member name Rank Change Rank Points
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CompuDude 5 -1 6 16,427,391
NiceMedTexMD 6 +1 5 16,464,387
jemc2000 133 -1 134 269,096
cknotty 134 +1 133 269,281
Verhaegh 153 -1 154 170,870
hne12359 154 +1 153 172,435
Brianmn 241 -1 242 24,924
LabarH 242 -1 243 24,079
R. Dunbar 243 -1 244 23,833
imdioxin 244 +3 241 25,048

Points milestones report
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imdioxin reached 25,000 points applause

Runtime milestones report
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RT reached 69 years of runtime applause
xroule reached 28 years of runtime applause

Results returned milestones report
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No results returned milestones found. sad

New members report
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No new members found. sad

Retired members report
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No new retired members found. smile

For the week as a team:

Statistics  Total Run Time  Points   Results

Date (y:d:h:m:s) Earned Returned
09/26/2010 0:213:22:55:39 523,761 986
09/25/2010 0:218:06:40:02 511,481 975
09/24/2010 0:250:16:07:28 592,757 1,139
09/23/2010 0:236:05:41:25 592,114 1,176
09/22/2010 0:228:03:16:41 576,587 1,149
09/21/2010 0:241:20:18:15 614,169 1,249
09/20/2010 0:244:18:12:50 623,129 1,282


Team Records:
Results Returned: 12/19/2007 2,522
Points: 07/05/2010 702,713
Runtime: 01/25/2006 1:123:00:53:34

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MyOnlineTeam Daily Statistics for 09/26 - Active Members

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Current Points
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RT 1 0 57,314,685 125,536
marysduby 2 0 54,396,708 50,347
Coingames 3 0 34,431,227 59,000
parmesian 4 0 24,600,201 23,682
NiceMedTexMD 5 0 16,464,387 40,642
Dave Bell 6 0 15,871,511 6,367
nl59056 7 0 15,308,745 2,276
keithhenry 8 0 13,327,002 13,970
Esteban69 9 0 12,530,944 4,419
judson Somerville MD 10 0 12,181,541 48,330
brown chris 11 0 11,387,210 28,953
Vuj 12 0 8,341,684 14,181
xroule 13 0 7,099,087 21,450
Fanie 14 0 6,833,982 883
Blueprint 15 0 6,649,187 16,210
frans6nl 16 0 6,418,817 2,320
sulcata 17 0 6,236,206 1,757
PohSoon 18 0 5,938,441 4,752
darth_vader 19 0 3,315,743 8,611
Tomwp 20 0 3,045,057 280
lawrencehardin 21 0 2,695,137 1,229
Alain Bryden 22 0 2,686,831 0
finman 23 0 2,634,382 4,902
smcclarigan 24 0 2,218,514 2,179
Sunny L. Kae 25 0 2,212,433 1,249
johng 26 0 1,942,352 0
Wunderwuzzi 27 0 1,832,149 1,679
Rene Punt 28 0 1,820,972 4,852
harry_i_c 29 0 1,702,911 571
Jockin 30 0 1,674,144 4,318
Airwolf_Liu 31 0 1,430,775 2,100
imin 32 0 1,261,059 878
laughing66607 33 0 1,215,694 326
Bon Kuhlman 34 0 1,109,634 1,139
David Autumns 35 0 1,038,611 9,993
elpe 36 0 1,026,828 302
Daeloan 37 0 951,961 3,205
Mechanical 38 0 437,197 1,306
barney15c 39 0 393,579 512
madambaster 40 0 381,786 281
Natalino 41 0 375,448 0
Momentary Lapse of Reason 42 0 373,839 0
mapplebeck 43 0 297,526 0
cknotty 44 0 269,281 3,071
hne12359 45 0 172,435 2,592
Harry de Swart 46 0 149,793 0
pramodp 47 0 139,913 1,856
imdioxin 48 0 25,048 1,255
dudedude1122 49 0 2,014 0


Note: Active members are those who earned points in the prior 30 days.

Top Twenty active members returning points today:
01: RT - 125,536 points
02: Coingames - 59,000 points
03: marysduby - 50,347 points
04: judson Somerville MD - 48,330 points
05: NiceMedTexMD - 40,642 points
06: brown chris - 28,953 points
07: parmesian - 23,682 points
08: xroule - 21,450 points
09: Blueprint - 16,210 points
10: Vuj - 14,181 points
11: keithhenry - 13,970 points
12: David Autumns - 9,993 points
13: darth_vader - 8,611 points
14: Dave Bell - 6,367 points
15: finman - 4,902 points
16: Rene Punt - 4,852 points
17: PohSoon - 4,752 points
18: Esteban69 - 4,419 points
19: Jockin - 4,318 points
20: Daeloan - 3,205 points

Total points returned today: 523,761
Active members returning points today: 42
Average points per member active today: 12,470.5
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