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Former Member
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Yes, they're cumulative, mostly adding/refreshing drivers for new and existing hardware. Occasionally like for some most recent kernels they ripped out bits that hardly are used, like say to exaggerate, support for PC-XT hardware. They did and that took off quite a few megabytes. [Each kernel takes about 275MB diskspace, but the latest 3.16 LTS is up to 280 now]. Occasionally see a list when running sudo apt-get upgrade summoning to run 'apt-get autoremove' to ditch old kernels. The last 2 wiped took 557MB].
As it is, Linux once stable runs and runs, so if there's no 'must have' features, no reason to force an upgrade to a next major. Forcing kernel upgrades beyond the supported level could break things. |
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Falconet
Master Cruncher Portugal Joined: Mar 9, 2009 Post Count: 3315 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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The ony reason I could possibly want to upgrade that kernel is because of performance improvements and battery ones.
----------------------------------------I use Ubuntu Tweak as a gui for apt-remove the old kernel and unnecessary packages. It's prettier :D I hope the next August update of Ubuntu comes with the new 4.X kernel but I don't think it will... Thanks ![]() - AMD Ryzen 5 1600AF 6C/12T 3.2 GHz - 85W - AMD Ryzen 5 2500U 4C/8T 2.0 GHz - 28W - AMD Ryzen 7 7730U 8C/16T 3.0 GHz |
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There's already a 4.n LTS, so hope is indeed in the 14.04 pathway, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack says it will be 3.19 for 14.4.3 (next 14.04 kernel update) with kernels for 14.04.4 and 14.04.5 in TBO (To be Announced).
More DIY fun, how to convince your system to log out at an interval convenient to you [or you insist on for users who've been idle for nn minutes: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-tmout-shell-autologout-variable/ |
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Falconet
Master Cruncher Portugal Joined: Mar 9, 2009 Post Count: 3315 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Good to know.
----------------------------------------Thanks SekeRob ![]() - AMD Ryzen 5 1600AF 6C/12T 3.2 GHz - 85W - AMD Ryzen 5 2500U 4C/8T 2.0 GHz - 28W - AMD Ryzen 7 7730U 8C/16T 3.0 GHz |
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This article about assembly code cleanup in the kernel http://www.itrunsonlinux.com/desktopos/linux-kernel-code-cleanup/ I saw after reading that the subject final 4.1 was actually released...https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/6/22/8 which is an LTS release!
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Falconet
Master Cruncher Portugal Joined: Mar 9, 2009 Post Count: 3315 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I upgraded to the 4.1 Kernel on my laptop and desktop.
----------------------------------------Could be just a false impression, but with the same programs opened before with the 3.13 kernel, I am using 1.07 GB of RAM as opposed to 1.2-1.3 GB. Hope the battery improves on the laptop as it apparently does with this kernel. Any idea on how to get auto-updates for this kernel? ![]() - AMD Ryzen 5 1600AF 6C/12T 3.2 GHz - 85W - AMD Ryzen 5 2500U 4C/8T 2.0 GHz - 28W - AMD Ryzen 7 7730U 8C/16T 3.0 GHz |
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Don't know [but Google is everyone's friend to tell you ;]. Certainly got the 3.16 to update automatically into my Thar 14.04LTS. 3.16 then updates from the Utopic RPMs. Not so sure if shoeing in 4.10 [4.2 dev now kick off], does anything at all for your hardware in terms of battery extension. Here's a feature summary: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/06/linux-4-1-kernel-new-features
----------------------------------------Kernel 4.2 has a bunch of scheduler improvements. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_i...ux-4.2-Scheduler-Upgrades . Lots of news on Kernel 4.2 at Phoronix: https://www.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-025...rnel%204.2&gsc.page=1 with a forward look in this article: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_it...linux-4.2-features-coming Interesting is that 4.1 EXT4 FS now has file encryption [courtesy of a Google contribution who put it into Android M for starters]... ultra secure https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=EXT4-Changes-Linux-4.1 . As many know, without and having physical access makes it a piece of cake to get access to partitions and file access [which is why critical files themselves should be saved with proper passwords.] Lots of times I thought to have lost the access [had backups though], and got it back by simply reassigning file ownership on Windows. The article holds this most heads-up note "The design and implementation might end up getting shared too with the new F2FS Flash-Friendly File-System." Is this going to help SSD's? [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Jun 24, 2015 9:57:27 AM] |
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Falconet
Master Cruncher Portugal Joined: Mar 9, 2009 Post Count: 3315 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Yeah I read the OMGUbuntu article. Even posted some comments regarding the kernel updates. It has to be updated manually.
----------------------------------------Well RAM usage is definitely down. I was on 3.13, I checked release notes for the kernel between 3.13 and 4.1 and there were lot of power and RAM improvements. So I am hopeful the battery will last longer - the estimate certainly is longer. ![]() - AMD Ryzen 5 1600AF 6C/12T 3.2 GHz - 85W - AMD Ryzen 5 2500U 4C/8T 2.0 GHz - 28W - AMD Ryzen 7 7730U 8C/16T 3.0 GHz |
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for the Minties amongst you: http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/slidesho...s-desktop-experience.html
The link pretty much tells what's it about :D |
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Former Member
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Some interesting commentaries on the 4.2rc1 kernel development
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/06/one_m...of_code_hit_linux_kernel/ In amongst, better FPU handling :O quite a bit of low-level x86 changes: both source code re-organization for x86 entry code and lots of FPU handling cleanups.” Torvalds rates the x86 injections as “fairly unusual” because “low-level x86 code being fairly stable and seldom seeing those kinds of big changes.” Anyway, going to wait it out until the next LTS comes out, 16.04 I would presume, i.e. April 2016... my 14.04 with 3.16 kernel is running very stable on the ol multi-boot desktop. |
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