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Former Member
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I just installed the Ubuntu12.04. The BOINC version packaged there is v7.0.24. I expected v7.0.25. I wanted to compare releaseNotes between the versions and I expected to find that information at the BOINC site but version "7.0.24" is not listed in the versionHistory webpage at the BOINC site. Another thing is that the Ubuntu install did not offer a choice; I would have stayed with BOINC_v6.12.33 (packaged with Ubuntu11.10) if given that choice.
----------------------------------------Oh well, I hope that v7.0.24 is close enough to the BOINC-recommended v7.0.25 when it comes to interfacing with the WCG-servers. <---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- â¢edit1_2012.04.27Fr.1233.utc I just completed the first two(2) Ubuntu12.04 update. 1] An "apport" -- a crash reporting facility; and a LinuxKernel header. 2] Firefox_v12 (from Firefox_v11) My wish for the next Ubuntu12.04 update: BOINC_v7.0.25 from v7.0.24  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> ; [Edit 2 times, last edit by Former Member at Apr 28, 2012 1:46:30 PM] |
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marvey11
Advanced Cruncher Germany Joined: Apr 2, 2011 Post Count: 89 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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AFAICS, there's were no Linux-related changes from 7.0.24 --> 7.0.25. See this Berkeley forum post for further details.
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Hardnews
Senior Cruncher England Joined: Oct 11, 2008 Post Count: 151 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Forgive my dim-witted question, but I'm not a Linux adept. I keep my two Lin-boxes on Ubu 11.04. The reason is that, previously, upgrades have 'broken' my Ubu machines to the point where I've had to re-install. 11.04 seems rock-solid, out of the, er, box.
The machines have run since December last year, no kernel or other upgrades, no security issues (that I've detected) and two rock solid machines. If it ain't broke, should I fix it? About the only maintenance I do is to run Bleachbit once a month to evict browser-crud. The question is : should I really be installing kernel and security upgrades, or can I carry on with steady 'old' 11.04 & kernel 2.6.38-8 in blissful ignorance? (MyWin-boxes are rigorously upgraded) Thanks. S. |
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Former Member
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Nope, just stay where you are, and get KSplice in place for bootless kernel fixing and security patching [see up in this thread for links/details]. Oracle promised to continue providing this tool for free to the non-commercial user for the Ubuntu and few other distros... and it truly works].
------------------------------------------//-- P.S. Adept at or Adapt of, my interest has cooled significantly on the Linux front. Not going to get 12.04 for a very long time and having to go through all the tweaking invested in the past 12 months (lost all going from 11.04 to 11.10). There's simply no ''must have'' if the purpose is just crunching and file serving (which is what my Ubuntu box does). Don't think the file system (ext4) is performant enough for crunching (CEP2 99% efficient on same [old] box under W7-64 and struggling when on Linux to get 93-95% in pure idle/headless state). Waiting for the next best thing [if BTRFS is delivering]. edit: Not patching Linux? Fetch the pointy [Edit 2 times, last edit by Former Member at Apr 27, 2012 8:59:53 AM] |
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Former Member
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Hardnews,
----------------------------------------I am still running Mint 7 (Ubuntu 9.04)  No updates for a very long time and I couldn't be happier with it. I find the older version is much less resource hungry and much more efficient crunching for me. Personally I think the security risks are much over hyped. "Linux is not Windows" is a very common term and for good reason. All I do with my Linux box is crunch WCG so what possible security risk could there be ? Plus I know how everything works and it's Rock Solid. I don't plan to "upgrade" ever...  Tomas T P.S. SekeRob , Better fit me for that Dunce Cap because I am still running 2.6.28-11 Not on a network , no personal information stored , no banking or buying.... Can reinstall the OS in an hour tops if need be. What might happen to me  [Edit 2 times, last edit by Former Member at Apr 27, 2012 9:05:50 AM] |
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Former Member
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That's disturbing... 12.04 Pangolin coming with 7.0.24. Suggest to downgrade by fetched the 6.12.33 deb version. 7.0.24 was never recommended and just yesterday I upgraded the test host from 7.0.24 to 7.0.26 because the daemon of .24 was randomly crashing out [first time whilst I was 30 miles away and the box sitting there for 3 hours in idle mode]. This repeated several times when close and running CFSW only [after boot for the feather shaking]. All stdxxxxxx.txt logs preserved, suggesting an out of bounds memory access. If it repeats with .26 a mail will go to the developers.
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Hardnews
Senior Cruncher England Joined: Oct 11, 2008 Post Count: 151 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Thank you, people. 11.04 will stay then.
Ubu 11.04 64 bit works well for me as a crunch-OS - in that I don't have to pay for yet another !"£!$$%! Msoft licence, and I like the Linux GUI. The CPU boincs only at 90%, leaving me 10% for non-essentials, so Nth degree tuning isn't needed. It's proved crash-proof on the I7-2600K too, another reason to keep it there. S. |
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Dieter Matuschek
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That's disturbing... 12.04 Pangolin coming with 7.0.24. Suggest to downgrade by fetched the 6.12.33 deb version. Maybe my experience is helpful: I've never had any issues with BOINC 7.0.xx. All my PCs are running 7/24.  Ask not what the world can do for you - ask what you can do for the world. |
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Former Member
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AFAICS, there's were no Linux-related changes from 7.0.24 --> 7.0.25. See this Berkeley forum post for further details. Thanks for the link. Good to know that there 'were' (and 'are' too?) no Linux-related changes from 7.0.24 to 7.0.25.  ; |
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Former Member
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AFAICS, there's were no Linux-related changes from 7.0.24 --> 7.0.25. See this Berkeley forum post for further details. Funny, how that linked thread never had a 7.0.24 Linux build mentioned. At any rate, as what I wrote in other thread, 7.0.24/.25/.26 are better skipped, lest you want idling cores or the client not adhering to the ''run based on preferences'', and frying your laptop (mine raced to 93C, because 50% of CPU time at 100% of cores at 2.2Ghz is not 100%/100% at 3.1Ghz where it stuck). Reproduced using the 12.04 penlinux install procedure, whilst "Run based on preferences" was selected. Run these versions... you're on your own. P.S. First act after creating a persistent install on a USB memory stick was that a new kernel was downloaded by the update manager. 3.2.0.24 if I remember correctly. For enjoyment, on opinion piece: I hate Ubuntu, but my mother-in-law loves it Going to stick to 11.10 for a longer than a wee while. --//-- |
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