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retsof
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You are right but it doesn't stop the fact that in the UK we have just had the coldest winter for over 30 years and Australia has been in drought, a lot larger place than the U.K.
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You are right but it doesn't stop the fact that in the UK we have just had the coldest winter for over 30 years and most of Europe and North America and and and So that's the Coldest Winter for over 30 years that is weather and if it had of been the warmest Winter in 2010 that would be "Global Warming" Tell me it isn't so So that is the Coldest Winter since 1978 in the UK As soon as the CET figure arrives I will report on Winter 2010's (D-J-F) rank against the last 351 years Its a fact the weather has gone in cycles and it is like the 60s and 70s here.No warming here.Thank God its not as cold as 76
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Across of the North Sea both in Belgium and The Netherlands the report is coldest winter in ... 14 years... and still no 11 city tour... snow covered ice would not freeze properly... kind of a world wide physics type of law. And STILL the globe was warmer for January and is about to be declared for February by such records as made by AMSU Channel 4 and 5, one of the x-references to check if Dr. Roy [Spencer] is not fudging the numbers.
----------------------------------------http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/execute.csh?amsutemps Choose Channel 4 and years of choice or Channel 5 and select the 20 year high/low as reference. Someone getting gobsmacked again... happens when willfully choosing to wear Yoh Janta special edition 2010. The sun is blasting and on sunday recorded in my diary to have seen a never seen before mini mini bird, no idea what it was, but it flew like a colibri, long needle like beak hanging perfectly stationary in the air, sucking from the flowers, yes flowers that have been showing here, one or the other uninterruptedly all through modern meteorological winter. The pine beetle in the USA in meantime is eating the forests... most Northern Americans have noticed... they should have frosted their bunnies. An estimated 1 BILLION tonnes of CO2 being released by sick trees, just last year. http://mpb.cfs.nrcan.gc.ca/index_e.html About the Program British Columbia is currently experiencing a Mountain Pine Beetle (MPB) outbreak beyond any bark beetle epidemic recorded in North American history. This eco-system altering epidemic is causing widespread mortality of the lodgepole pine forests, the province’s most abundant commercial tree species. At the current rate of spread, 50 per cent of the mature pine will be dead by 2008 and 80 per cent by 2013. The consequences of the epidemic will be felt for decades in British Columbia. The beetle is also posing a real threat to Alberta’s lodgepole pine forests and the Jackpine stands of Canada’s northern boreal forest. The ain't true-ists say it ... ain't true, because through their tinfoil blinded windows nothing can be seen.
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Sekerob
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Mountain pine beetle and forest carbon feedback to climate change
----------------------------------------http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v452/n7190/abs/nature06777.html It's printed on the internet, so don't you believe that Yoh Janta special edition 2010 wearers.
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Sekerob
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Sunspots... the Belgium site is always quickest. Here the history of the last 6 monthly averages:
----------------------------------------200909 2009.706 4.3 200910 2009.791 4.6 * 200911 2009.873 4.2 * 200912 2009.958 10.6 * 201001 2010.042 13.1 * 201002 2010.122 18.6 * According Judith Lean the typical difference between solar minimum, no spots, and solar maximum, marked by ~100-~150 sunspots visible from earth, is 0.24 Watts Square meter effective in Total Solar Irradiation (TSI). The GHG's we've added in the past 20 years per the AGGI index was good for over 1 Watt per square meter (per end of 2008) http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/aggi/  Kyoto reference year 1990 , just 18 years to add 1 Watt / square meter. It's like that central heating in your house... it takes time to warm up. For GHG effects the time lag is computed to be 30 years, but they're unsure the scientists... it might go slower, it might go faster... all depends if we clean up our fossil fuel act. Thus, BEWARE, whom you side with... burn the future or action now to prevent we return to being troglodytes again, regressing to our longer past. How much FUD does it take?... F I have, UD I've got not. We learn every day, and the picture is dire... to start already 1 billion hungry people and 2.5 billion without access to save and regularly available drinking... can you picture, not having a tap in the house, hold a glass under it and fill it with save water, no industrial waste toxin residuals in it? None in yours?
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Hey Whl., did you get your stats book? I was able to replicate the above chart, just by using the raw data... when I learned how, it was easy and added a few more, mostly for myself to have a single view, such as global temps, the upward anomaly.
---------------------------------------- Oh sorry, did I write 1 Watts / Square meter added in 18 years in previous post? Should read 30 years, and still it is 4 x more than the solar flux accounts for, in just 30 years. It's actually measurably and visibly that we did something since Kyoto 1990... that is done the we being the countries that got on the program. Note to self: Insert anom temp note in chart legend and TSI source.
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Not so much. They must have caved from the Freemasons' pressure. http://www.iop.org/News/news_40679.html Institute of Physics forced to clarify submission to climate emails inquiry: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/ma...emails-inquiry-submission In a statement issued today the institute said its written submission to the committee "has been interpreted by some individuals to imply that it does not support the scientific evidence that the rising concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is contributing to global warming." It says: "That is not the case. The institute's position on climate change is clear: the basic science is well enough understood to be sure that our climate is changing, and that we need to take action now to mitigate that change." The institute said its critical comments were focused on the scientific process, and "should not be interpreted to mean that the institute believes that the science itself is flawed." [Edit 3 times, last edit by Former Member at Mar 2, 2010 6:31:49 PM] |
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David Autumns
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The CET is in for February
----------------------------------------Winter 2009/2010 was the joint 57th Coldest Winter in the last 351 years i.e. in the last 351 years there have been 292 warmer winters with the warmest being 1869 which was 4.3C warmer than 2010 2010's peers with an average temperature of 2.47C throughout December January and Feb were 1808 and 1886. 2.47C in Central England What was it like for you Whl.?  |
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David Autumns
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It's amazing how much cold "Man Made Global Warming" can generate ;-)
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The CET is in for February Winter 2009/2010 was the joint 57th Coldest Winter in the last 351 years i.e. in the last 351 years there have been 292 warmer winters with the warmest being 1869 which was 4.3C warmer than 2010 2010's peers with an average temperature of 2.47C throughout December January and Feb were 1808 and 1886. 2.47C in Central England What was it like for you Whl.? Is that data for the UK only? Why does it matter to the rest of the world what is going on in your backyard? [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Mar 2, 2010 10:39:57 PM] |
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