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Re: Not sure how much longer they will be able to keep crunching in the UK

Who claimed the 2009/2010 El Niño was strong. Let me show strong on the SOI index 1993-2000... hint 1997/1998:



and another piece of the record 2000-2007:



anyone able to see what came after 1998? La Nina's maybe? Several? Robust types?

and the last years since the last month, February imminently added:



Anyone seeing a strong El Niño for 2009/2010 when comparing to the top chart and why it felt a bit cooler in the few years before...2007-2008?

Next project is to plot SOI, TEMPS, TSI, SUNSPOTS and CO2 and maybe Aurosols if there is a record, in a All-In-One view. Then, the Ain't True-Ists can slug it out what the dominant factor is in weather and climate change... that odd alignment of temp rise and GHG's, whilst that sun just trundles along.

I can see it and don't wear the J.Y. special issue 2010. They should be made illegal, globally.

PS: There's good news. It's thought the signatures that are the onset to ENSO changes are identified... it's in an other Ocean... The Indian.

http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/tre61k1r7-us-climate-elnino/

Lead-in to the snow story:

Indian Ocean clues to predicting El Nino: study

Posted 2010/02/21 at 1:27 pm EST

HONG KONG, Feb. 21, 2010 (Reuters) — Tracking Indian Ocean climate patterns could improve early-warning systems for the El Nino phenomenon, helping save lives and billions of dollars lost each year to the severe weather it causes.

In a paper published in Nature Geoscience, researchers in Japan and France said their new forecast model could predict an El Nino 14 months ahead of time, several months earlier than with current methods.


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Take it away Sam, from before the feet. For the easily impressionable, more smacking of the gob, all that snow (still much in Scotland), yet CET was weather influenced by that Arctic jetstream shift 3.12C for February. The 1970-2000 baseline average was 4.2C.

http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=cet;sess=

wow

and next up, usually Dr. Roy Spencer's UAH (or Jim Hansen's RSS), but these guys give global figures, not neck of the wood, outside your window readings.
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Anyone want to volunteer to pay for and download this

http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2010/2010EO010001.shtml

Tedesco, M., and A. J. Monaghan (2010), Climate and Melting Variability in Antarctica, Eos Trans. AGU, 91(1), doi:10.1029/2010EO010001.


Abstract

Scientists have observed large increases in melting on the Greenland Ice Sheet in recent decades. But what is happening in Antarctica? Temperature increases during the past 50–100 years have been recorded for the Antarctic Peninsula and West Antarctica. Melting over Antarctica has been monitored since 1979 using spaceborne passive microwave observations. The sign of the melting trends over Antarctica is variable at regional scales, depending on the period analyzed and on the indices used, with the continent-averaged trend being negligible.




Probably best we save our cash given that the sign of the melting trends over Antarctica is variable at regional scales, depending on the period analyzed and on the indices used, with the continent-averaged trend being negligible. wink


I must look up the definition of negligible over at http://www.thefreedictionary.com

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Probably best we save our cash given that the sign of the melting trends over Antarctica is variable at regional scales, depending on the period analyzed and on the indices used, with the continent-averaged trend being negligible. wink
Antarctica has weather. What a surprise!

I must look up the definition of negligible over at http://www.thefreedictionary.com

It is something like "trace". Do you remember that one?
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yep exactly retsof

Finally you hit the nail on the head
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http://www.knoxnews.com/polls/2010/feb/al-gore-poll/results/

maybe if you count the hanging chads.........
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yep exactly retsof

Finally you hit the nail on the head

Antarctica has weather. That's what we have been pounding on.
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Dear oh dear retsof

the trace bit.....
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Dear oh dear retsof

the trace bit.....
That would be small amounts of gas that has a lot of powerful effects. We have also been pounding on those nails.
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No retsof it's a trace gas whose effects are clearly negligible

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8550687.stm

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/travel/news/article7050812.ece


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