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Re: Not sure how much longer they will be able to keep crunching in the UK

Global temperature continues to drop from El Nino induced high


Can I second that :-) Dr Roy Spencer is correct

The Global Yearly Temperature has just rebounded to average - which is around 12.86C from this set of weather stations

This graph shows the yearly average as taken hourly from almost 2400 NOAA Weather Stations around the globe
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Just proves that dominant force on Global temperature is "water displacement & it's temperature" on a planet with coverage of ~70% of water...what a strange thing to say, imagine that! biggrin
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The specific heat capacity of Water is a fabulous thing, That and that it is most dense at 4C (3.98C) which means that bodies of water don't freeze bottom up killing all the life in them. That it evaporates and fuels the water cycle and that the cloud cover maintains the equilibrium of the planets temperature.

H2O is a marvelous thing biggrin
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Antartica's ice mass melts at a far higher speed than previously thought seemingly affecting the water level on the northern hemisphere more than any melt off of the Arctic ice cap will do.
219 billions of metric tons last year - a threefold in five years.


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What impresses me is this fact:
The ice sheets of Antarctica hold enough water to raise global sea level by 58 m.
It means that if all the ice of Antarctica melts, all land below 58 metres above sea level will be flooding. Even if only 1% (one-hundredth) of the ice would melt, it would mean that the sea level would rise almost 60 centimetres (that's nearly 2 feet). 60 centimetres is no fiction, it is the actual lowest prediction, which will be 'achieved' by the end of this century. But, since the melting of the ice is accelerating, "sea-level rise by [the year] 2100 (∼65 cm) will be more than double the amount if the rate was constant".
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2018/02/06/1717312115
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Here you find some chilling graphs, adriverhoef.
For all countries with a coastline - probably most of all the Netherlands and Bangladesh - it could be a race against time.
Even as the Netherlands is experts at keeping the sea out of their land, a rise like projected will be impossible
to guard against.
Even minor rises will challenge all the work you have already done blocking access for the North Sea.

"opgeheven hand tegen land en zee bestand knipoog naar het licht" - will be of little use sad
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Could I counter with this

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-stu...sheet-greater-than-losses

It really does depend on the hype machine you listen to
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Could I counter with this

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-stu...sheet-greater-than-losses

It really does depend on the hype machine you listen to

- "Oct. 30, 2015"
- “We’re essentially in agreement with other studies that show an increase in ice discharge in the Antarctic Peninsula and the Thwaites and Pine Island region of West Antarctica,”

How is this a counter? Doesn't it prove the point of little mermaid's contribution ("Antartica's ice mass melts at a far higher speed than previously thought")?
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You need to keep reading

the article from NASA says

“Our main disagreement is for East Antarctica and the interior of West Antarctica – there, we see an ice gain that exceeds the losses in the other areas.”

The extra snowfall that began 10,000 years ago has been slowly accumulating on the ice sheet and compacting into solid ice over millennia, thickening the ice in East Antarctica and the interior of West Antarctica by an average of 0.7 inches (1.7 centimeters) per year. This small thickening, sustained over thousands of years and spread over the vast expanse of these sectors of Antarctica, corresponds to a very large gain of ice – enough to outweigh the losses from fast-flowing glaciers in other parts of the continent and reduce global sea level rise.

in conclusion

“The good news is that Antarctica is not currently contributing to sea level rise, but is taking 0.23 millimeters per year away,” Zwally said

I think this contradicts the Antarctic is melting and we are all going to disappear under the sea meme rose
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