Hey Sek

What is the significance of week 6 of 1978?

Check out this latest data source

http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/files/wkcov.nhland.txt

http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/


Do you still think it is inexorably disappearing?

52,166,840 sq kms of land under snow week 7 2010

35% of the Land Surface of the Globe !

Is that because it is so hot?

Not really

I'll ask it in reverse

If say there was only 30 Million Sq Kms rather than the reality that is the 2nd greatest weekly snow coverage we have seen in the record that started in 1966


Would that be Global Warming?


and you know what the answer to that question is


You can't have it both ways astrolab

marysduby it could not be more unaffected by no statistically significant global warming in the last 15 years if it tried

Have you seen Al's latest disconnect with reality?


Worse Than We Thought February 12, 2010 : 7:08 PM

More evidence of the climate crisis is unfolding before our eyes. The situation in the Arctic is worse than data from satellite pictures have told us:

"For scientists studying the health of Arctic sea ice, satellite observations are absolutely essential for providing the big picture. It was satellites that revealed in September 2007 a record minimum ice coverage in the region -- the result of a massive summer melt. And it was satellites that showed in 2008 and 2009 the modest recovery of late-summer Arctic ice that suggested to some that the specter of a totally ice-free polar ocean might be somewhat less imminent than feared."

"But those high-altitude observations need occasional reality checks from scientists down on the surface. It was during one such on-the-ground research expedition last fall that David Barber, an Arctic climatologist at the University of Manitoba, got an unwelcome surprise."

"Barber was aboard the Canadian research icebreaker Amundsen, checking on ice in the Beaufort Sea north of Alaska and Western Canada. The ship was well inside a region the satellites said should be choked with thick, multiyear-old ice. "That's pretty much a no-go zone for an icebreaker of the Amundsen's size," says Barber. But the ship kept going, at a brisk 13 knots -- its top speed in open water is 13.7 knots -- and even when it finally reached thick ice, he says, "we could still penetrate it easily.""

"In short, as Barber and his colleagues explain in a recent paper in Geophysical Review Letters, the analysis of what the satellites were seeing was wrong. Some of what satellites identified as thick, melt-resistant multiyear ice turned out to be, in Barber's words, "full of holes, like Swiss cheese. We haven't seen this sort of thing before.""



No but we have heard it all before haven't we Al

The Satellites are lying to us and it's all like Swiss Cheese I tell you, cereal

That "modest" recovery Al was 23.4% more sea ice extent at minima in 2009 than in 2007 - 995,313 sq kms extra - about the size of Eygpt.


Come on Al you've been rumbled. It will be easier for all of us if you just admit it. You will feel better about yourself. It's not all disappearing now is it? It's not all going to be gone Al by as soon as 2014 as you implied when you picked that peace prize and the cash with the IPCC on 10th Dec 2007 is it now?

It was just a little seasonal variation in a short 32 year record wasn't it Al?

Oh dear

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-02-18/d...ay-for-carbon-market.html

UN carbon credits have fallen 11 percent since the start of climate Copenhagen meeting, which was aiming to set limits for emissions of carbon dioxide after 2012. They declined 0.6 percent today to 11.32 euros ($15.37) a metric ton on the European Climate Exchange in London as of 2 p.m.


What a tragedy


You mean the price of CO2 might disappear into thin air


I call that a result

You know who pays these charges for "carbon" don't you....we all do

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8511670.stm