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David Autumns
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Cheers KWSN
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David Autumns
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Yay new Project :-)
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From the same paper for some more balance: Extreme weather link 'can no longer be ignored In the same paper there's also an article on April having been the driest since the MET started measuring sometime late in the 18th Century.... 1796 maybe? Climate change expressed through increased weather extremes. And the polar Ice, which is a reflection of a weather series of the last 33 years:  Climate is measured ideally with 30 years or longer time-series. It's on the move. Food for thought, but evidently not to all! --//-- P.S. Hadley cells in their same place? |
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Former Member
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The balance reaches a long way back... 1659 for CET:
 England, the center overarching anything else in the world. To think that the sun is medium active in that 1360.25-1361.75 Watts per square meter SORCE band, a La Nina just completed and a new one is building, for the next terrible winter... 4% more vapor going around. How many joules would that need? Would that cause more instant cloud forming and then to precipitate out sooner due quicker saturation and more dust and aerosol nucleation? Water Vapor molecule in atmosphere residency down to 9 days... there's something in that paper written a couple of years ago that put the question: Is our atmosphere drying out? Sure enough if it rains by the bucket in hours, rather then the old steady drizzle lasting forever. Food for thought, for the various. --//-- P.S. The sun as seen since 1999, with the yellow band being the mean range since 2003. Soon a light blue band will appear for ACRIM range. Regrettably this much longer record does not publish data updates frequently.  |
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Former Member
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----------------------------------------http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=13616 - And David, please do check out the Cato institute. I think you'll find that our opinions really aren't that far apart. This institute was first brought up in this thread in April 2010 by one of the former contributors [to this thread], who threw it seems the towel over the never ending mixups of weather v climate and much more. There are opinions about this 'think tank'. Not going to say anything, but at Think Progress they've got a good assortment on Cato hits, and it's funding and it's 'members'. Scientific outcomes as ordered is sort of the reading. http://thinkprogress.org/?s=cato&x=0&y=0 , second hit from the top: Cato's Pat Michaels admits 40 percent of funding comes from big oil. Who else got the deep pockets? FSU recently refused 1.6 million ''donation'' by the Koch's... they wanted a say on who would / what would be worked on at that to be created faculty. Should a respected university have it's name used and loose it's scientific independence? --//-- P.S. for someone else, Dr. Charles Monnett was ordered back to work at BOEMRE... ad interim, in the public eye he's now thoroughly tainted, which was the objective. Wrong information as proven in this thread is near impossible to erradicate, so let's be sure that folk understand the ''No warming in the 21st century'' thoroughly belied the facts!  The Dutch have a great verb: "Al loopt de leugen nog zo schnell, de wahrheid achterhaald hem wel". No towel from the green corner. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Sep 1, 2011 12:04:40 PM] |
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KWSN - A Shrubbery
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It wouldn't surprise me at all to see heavy contributions from businesses for the Cato Institute, after all, it is a libertarian organization. Classical liberalism has always been a favorable climate for business, that's one of the key ideas of their platform. It does not necessarily follow that they would bias science results. There is (among some people) still a concept called integrity.
----------------------------------------The view I hold, and they share, is that both sides overstate their positions. I've said before and still maintain that humans are causing climate change. The truth, however, is that we don't really know a lot of the variables and how they all interact. Science takes time; it is a very long, self-correcting process and using scare tactics to over-hype the danger is just as wrong as downplaying the effects by denying the observable facts.  Distributed computing volunteer since September 27, 2000 |
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GeraldRube
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It wouldn't surprise me at all to see heavy contributions from businesses for the Cato Institute, after all, it is a libertarian organization. Classical liberalism has always been a favorable climate for business, that's one of the key ideas of their platform. It does not necessarily follow that they would bias science results. There is (among some people) still a concept called integrity. The view I hold, and they share, is that both sides overstate their positions. I've said before and still maintain that humans are causing climate change. The truth, however, is that we don't really know a lot of the variables and how they all interact. Science takes time; it is a very long, self-correcting process and using scare tactics to over-hype the danger is just as wrong as downplaying the effects by denying the observable facts. My friend there is a huge difference between a libertarian and a liberal--cato is a liberal institution  |
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nanoprobe
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Science takes time; it is a very long, self-correcting process and using scare tactics to over-hype the danger is just as wrong as downplaying the effects by denying the observable facts.. Alibi Gore, James Hanson, just to name 2, have become wealthy beyond their wildest dreams by over-hyping the danger. As long as money and power are the bottom line the over-hype will continue regardless of any of their so called facts, observable or not. Alibi Gore is the epitome of lying money grabbing hypocrite and a fool if he thinks he's fooling the masses. http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/gorehome.asp Al Gore's Personal Energy Use Is His Own "Inconvenient Truth" Gore's home uses more than 20 times the national average Al Gore Doubles His Carbon Footprint Gore's 'carbon offsets' paid to firm he owns Critics say justification for energy-rich lifestyle serves as way for former VP to profit  I could go on but hopefully I've made my point.
In 1969 I took an oath to defend and protect the U S Constitution against all enemies, both foreign and Domestic. There was no expiration date.
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GeraldRube
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Point well made!!!------Related posts from blogosphere
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