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Headline Story: Did a Secret Climate Deal Launch the Hockey Stick Fakery? by John O'Sullivan, guest post at Climate Realists --- http://climaterealists.com/index.php?id=5700&linkbox=true&position=1-- and http://climaterealists.com/index.php?id=5690&linkbox=true&position=2
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Sekerob
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marysduby, you just need to see the right hand blog-roll to know that what you linked to is as daft as O'sullivan is linking to... ClimateDepot ** is a satirical site that makes mince of many Aint True-ist postulations, which is telling about ClimateRealist level of comprehension.
----------------------------------------Meantime, whilst some keep asserting against better knowledge and describe the situation as [the new] normal, let's repeat the abnormal. JAXA indicates that the Sea Ice Extent fell below 2005 level on this date too in a kind of George Micheal way: Wham! Forgot to post this in our rush to get out the house... still totally stumped on the basis of extensive knowledge we have on the Arctic sea ice state of affairs [a 10C less cool Arctic for longer periods of the 2010 winter] how a series of dates showing the peak occurs later and later... not quite that linear ... and attaching any significance to that as were things looking up. Now are they when we combine a picture to some numbers, then let the numbers speak to the picture? This is it per JAXA, counting anything over 15% concentration: ![]() These are the number pulled from JAXA: ![]() What do they tell is? Let me volunteer that the late freeze formed a base to build suggestion theory on thin ice and that's not very save, scientifically speaking... Sea Ice Extent shrinking since maximum occurred at neck breaking 50k km square a day. I think I'll never be skating with DA on his ice of choice. This one, self updating, so bookmark if you will. Trying to get my head around how winter peak 2010 came 26 day later than 2009, had the same extent, yet as of yesterday, 545,000 km^2 has gone more since April 18 and 2010 stands at 337,000 less in absolute terms. Going to hunt for Bueller to get an answer. Is it Joules instead of Watts doing this :? 70,157 km square gone over last night. 2010 dropped it's ranking 1 spot, record daily reduction of 55,216 km square since maximum. It's now -387,344 km^2 less than 2009 as well. Should we reintroduce the sizes of countries to get a feel for this? Japan is 377,873 km^2. and what went in the previous 24 hours is nearly Scotland (78,772) Let's not talk about temperature... 4 months 2010 per UAH and RSS show a 31 year satellite instrumental record. The glossy surface still keeping up appearances whilst below: ![]() And those in the conspiracy of inconvenient truth reporting substantial below-A-normal snow cover: Daily Departure - May 14, 2010 (Day 134) One Anne posted in yesterday that we had just to wait another 150 years before we would have the definitive proof that CO2 was doing something to our planet... Experiment Earth... we have just 1. PS: Gisstemp is in and AMSU-R, Channel 5 shows that heat is seriously stuck in the atmosphere... just a single El Niño doing that? ![]() Have a nice Sunday (Your doomsday messengers will be checking in more frequent... 60,000 barrels of fossil fuel a day spilling into the Mexican Golf according latest Deep Horizon assessment) ** That was a joke of course since the blog is run by Marc Morano... well let's not talk about him as former [let go] staffer of Sn.Inhofe.
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Sekerob
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Oh, mathematicians, algebraists and statisticians call the curve that CO2 is on near exponential... of concave shape, not convex, but that is depending on whether the view is from below [where the glass is half full] or above [where the glass is showing little left to sip from]
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Oh, mathematicians, algebraists and statisticians call the curve that CO2 is on near exponential... of concave shape, not convex, but that is depending on whether the view is from below [where the glass is half full] or above [where the glass is showing little left to sip from] The formula: ![]() Well that is to far above my intellectual comprehension but?? http://www.c3headlines.com/2010/05/paradise-l...ming-occurring-there.html Personally my glass is full of life--i think you all had better start thinking about what is going to happen when the world goes bankrupt--as in Greece an the rest of Europe. **More important what will the rest of the world do if America defaults.Be aware global warming will be the last thing on anyones mind--**.Poor Dave--keep up the good fight **edited for appropriate forum language**tkh [Edit 2 times, last edit by TKH at May 18, 2010 12:05:56 PM] |
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** I guess you missed the news. America has a Democrat in power, but then how would you know if you cannot decide whether he is left or rightBe aware global warming will be the last thing on anyones mind When we can no longer exist in our environment, it will be the top subject, but we will be gone by then**edited for appropriate forum language**tkh I feel your pain, especially when it comes to your forecasting the end of the world in 2012. I have given up on my astrology chart since I can now rely on you to espouse obfuscation.[Edit 1 times, last edit by TKH at May 18, 2010 12:07:25 PM] |
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Sekerob
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Oh, mathematicians, algebraists and statisticians call the curve that CO2 is on near exponential... of concave shape, not convex, but that is depending on whether the view is from below [where the glass is half full] or above [where the glass is showing little left to sip from] The formula: ![]() Well that is to far above my intellectual comprehension but?? http://www.c3headlines.com/2010/05/paradise-l...ming-occurring-there.html Personally my glass is full of life--i think you all had better start thinking about what is going to happen when the world goes bankrupt--as in Greece an the rest of Europe. ** More important what will the rest of the world do if America defaults.Be aware global warming will be the last thing on anyones mind--** Poor Dave--keep up the good fight**edited for appropriate forum language** marysduby, your political views interest me not one iota. So you found a link with some verbiage, which goes to co2science site of which we know what they are and they post similar verbiage http://www.co2science.org/articles/V11/N4/C3.php but then when one digs deeper into these links, we cannot find a single actual science journal that has published those findings. Then, when digging further in with google we find a number of repetitions, still no science journals, but the paper it links to is different and does mention this Bhattacharyya, A., Sharma, J., Shah, S.K., Chaudhary, V., 2007,. Climatic changes during the last 1800 years BP from. Paradise Lake, Sela Pass, ... http://www.iypeinsa.org/updates-09/art-10.pdf. as a reference. In one place it was paywalled to even get the abstract, so I really like to get to read that. Did find this though in TNYT: http://community.nytimes.com/comments/doteart...unicators-indian-journey/ again just in a comment, sort of copy of copy of copy without anyone actually reading the source and whole document. So, where is that study(?) that when clicked on to next link which clicked on then clicked on seems to circle back to itself and that Morano chappy of Climate Depot. Was the peer conducted [not peer reviewed] study actually one in relation to monsoon climate variability in a certain part of the Himalayas? Was it omitted maybe that monsoonal cycles are so frequent that they were bound to coincide with the Roman warming and the Medieval Climate Anomaly? Yep, they say it Ain't True but where's the evidence? Where's the actual link to the study?
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Sekerob
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DA, some news from JAXA about which I EMAILED them 2 years ago and got a most courious answer: The melt pond adjustment have been smoothed out, finally!
----------------------------------------Method for calculating sea-ice extent * The sea-ice extent is calculated as the areal sum of sea ice covering the ocean where sea-ice concentration (SIC) exceeds 15%. SIC data of JAXA’s AMSR-E standard products are used for this purpose (http://sharaku.eorc.jaxa.jp/AMSR/products/pdf/alg_des.pdf). The algorithm for calculating SIC was developed and provided by Dr. Comiso of NASA GSFC through a cooperative relationship between NASA and JAXA. * The black dot seen at the North Pole is an area lacking data where AMSR-E cannot observe the Earth’s surface due to the limit of its observational coverage (i.e., orbit inclination of 98deg. and swath width of 1600km). Please note that this area is also counted as sea-ice cover in our estimation of sea-ice extent. We may change the policy (i.e., filling the gap with full coverage of sea ice) in the near future due to the recent drastic reduction of Arctic sea ice. We will announce this if it is implemented. * [Updated on May 18, 2010] Previous version of data processing had made an erroneous blip of sea ice extent on June 1st and October 15th which was seen in the graph of sea ice extent as a small peak on these dates. We improved the processing to make the graph much smoother. The apparent blip had arisen due to a switching of some parameters in the processing on both dates. The parameter switching is needed because the surface of the Arctic sea-ice becomes wet in summer due to the melting of ice which changes satellite-observed signatures of sea-ice drastically. By this improvement most of the sea ice extent values are not affected at all except for the period of May 23-June 10 and October 7-25 of each year. PS: See that paragraph above which I've marked red? They at JAXA starting to see too and hear about these North Pole Trackers that had to take the Russian Helicopter to reach 90 north of the equator!
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marysduby, your political views interest me not one iota.------Well i was not trying to interest you my politic--mostly i think there are more pressing matters to contemplate---TKH i apologize for the infertile intellect and language----what to do ?? http://www.discerningtoday.org/members/Digest...lobal_cooling_strikes.htm
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Someone help me i just cant stop --??-- http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/23270
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Sekerob
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Hey marysduby, when on a roll actually read the whole IPCC 1990 report and the accompanying text that goes for instance with figure 7C of the FAR http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/far/wg_II/ipcc_far_wg_II_full_report.pdf page 202
----------------------------------------It makes it extremely clear that (Dr.) Tim Ball is one who goes by omissivity. The MWP or MCA or MCO as differently referred to was NOT GLOBAL... but that we've said several times before. As for the credentials from your link: “Dr. Tim Ball is a renowned environmental consultant and former climatology professor at the University of Winnipeg. Dr. Ball employs his extensive background in climatology and other fields as an advisor to the International Climate Science Coalition, Friends of Science and the Frontier Centre for Public Policy.” Desmogblog has a long list on the gentlemen how he pimps his CV http://www.desmogblog.com/search/node/tim%20ball One such credential check: In a September 26, 2006 letter to the Royal Society, Dr. Tim Ball, the leading signatory, identifies himself as "Professor of Climatology, University of Winnipeg." Not quite. From 1988 until his retirement in 1996, Dr. Ball was a Professor of Geography at that university. He has not, since, had any official position at U of W or at any university. So, he is not now a Professor of Climatology at the University of Winnipeg and, arguably, never was. It raises the question: if he is this cavalier about the factual accuracy of his own record of employment and credentials, how could he expect us to believe any of the rest of what he says? A professor no doubt, claiming that to be in 2006, 10 years after his retirement and of climatology at that... yeah right.
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